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Discussion board 10 Regarding the content of week nine, we learned to differentiate between derealization and depersonalization. Derealization is a condition where individuals dissociate from their environment or immediate world and people close to them. On the other side, depersonalization is when individuals are conscious and stressed about not being able to produce the emotion or emotional connection with another thing or being like they used to. Besides, in most cases, depersonalization stems from the need to protect individuals from the stressors of their surroundings. Therefore, depersonalization often is known as a defence mechanism. However, it can become a psychological pathology when the individual is due to a severe form of depersonalization which impedes their ability to perform daily activities to survive. We know that Buddhist tradition calls us to live a life that is less invested in the environment to protect ourselves from suffering. My question is, what is the circumstance that arises when we follow the lifestyle with the knowledge of Buddhist tradition? Enlightenment’s Evil Twin: Depersonalization How do you asses this claim? “A mother comes to me and says, 'I received a letter from my son in prison. Please prescribe me something to cry.” Depersonalization versus derealization - What is common and what is not? Could anyone suffer from depersonalization? Is it common? “Research suggests that areas of the brain that are key to emotional and physical sensations, such as the amygdala and the insula , [interoceptive and exteroceptive] appear to be less responsive in chronic depersonalization sufferers . You might become less empathetic; your pain threshold might increase. These numbing effects mean that it’s commonly conceived as a defense mechanism ; Hunter calls it a “psychological trip switch” which can be triggered in times of stress.” Depersonalization: Loss of mine-ness or “painful absence of feeling” - Sense of ownership, richness or familiarity of sensations is missing or impoverished. Philosophers, psychologists and neuroscientists, etc. Philosophers : what is the self ? Is it a unity or is it not ? Is it real or is it not? And what do we mean by “real” when we refer to self? Psychologists : what are the symptoms? What are the causes? How can it be helped? Neuroscientists : are there any changes in the brain? What kind and where? Neuro-philosophers ? -Are there any changes in the brain in relation to change of self (existential feelings)? -experience is vital to self Unusual response: “Alice is a 59-year-old ex-accountant living in Australia who has had depersonalization for more than 18 years (her name has been changed). However, for her, the experience is pleasant. “It’s helped me in my life,” she says. Over the past few years, she has learned to interpret her experiences in a Buddhist context, and she describes depersonalization as a “ deconditioning ” of sorts: “ The significance I place on the world is all in my mind ,” she tells me. While Alice doesn’t exactly equate depersonalization with enlightenment, she sees it as a sort of halfway, formless state. “ I believe I am on the path to enlightenment ,” she says.” Enlightenment? “Theravadin Buddhist tradition, which are anicca , or impermanence ; dukkha , or dissatisfaction ; and anatta , or not-self . Shinzen Young, a Buddhist teacher working with the department of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, refers to depersonalization as “ enlightenment’s evil twin .”
As in depression ,… “The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) notes that depersonalization must cause the patient distress and have an impact on her daily functioning for it to be classified as clinically significant . In this sense, it seems inappropriate to call Alice’s experiences pathological . “We have ways of measuring disorders, but you have to ask if it’s meaningful. It’s an open question,” Bezzubova says. “But [depersonalization] certainly has the quality of being ill . It’s certainly a lack of order —especially in acute depersonalization. People cannot manage their daily activities .” Important point: Medford is wary of fruitless philosophizing around unanswerable questions. “ It’s like picking a scab ,” he says. Obsessive questioning is a common trait in people with depersonalization, often perpetuating anxiety instead of providing insight. “I think calling it a loss of self is maybe a convenient shorthand for something that’s hard to capture ,” he says. “ I prefer to talk about experience—because that’s what’s important in psychiatry .” The sense of bodily ownership As a future nurse, consider this: It was painful and my arm felt like withdrawing, but it was not a genuine pain, it was a pain that did not reach the soul… It is a pain, if you want, but the surface of my skin is miles away from my brain, and I do not know whether I am suffering (Laetitia, Janet, 1928, 65).”(Quoted in Billion, 2016) What do you think is happening with the patient and what could be the cause of it? Introduction Billion argues that the sense of bodily ownership is psychologically primitive , which means that it cannot be explained with, or reduced to, anything else (e.g., sensorimotor, interoceptive, exteroceptive, affective, or purely bodily sensations). But, as he holds, the primitive sense can be reduced to a neurophysiological state. Historically, Tracyan and others, held a non-deflationary view: bodily ownership is marked by a distinct sense of mine-ness that is different from sensual bodily sensation (e.g., I touch my arm and it feels mine) Deflationary positions hold that there is nothing over and above the bodily sense of ownership that marks a sense of mine-ness. Non-deflationary position: “A contemporary of Tracy, Cabanis, would argue that at a deeper level, the mark of mine-ness stems from “organic” or “internal impressions”, a set of largely implicit visceral sensations constituting an implicit background feeling of bodily existence, and that would later be called cenesthetic [general awareness of one’s own body] .”(2) Contemporary theories Deflationary position by Martin (1995): “the sense of bodily ownership (i) is grounded on the spatial content of my bodily sensations (ii) and does not involve a specific mark of mineness.”(3) Non-deflationary by Vignemont (2007): “She argues both that the spatial content of sensations is not sufficient to explain the sense of bodily ownership (against (i)), and that a mark of mineness is required for that (against (ii)).” “Vignemont’s master argument relies on somatoparaphrenia, a fascinating neurological condition in which bodily self-awareness seems to err. Patients suffering from somatoparaphrenia can misattribute one of their limbs to someone else. The alien limb is normally paralyzed and patients do not feel any sensations in it. In some rare cases, however (I know only of four), the patient can correctly report sensations in the disowned limb. In such cases, it seems that patients have normal bodily sensations in a limb without bodily self- awareness for that limb. This suggests that Martin’s deflationary theory is wrong and that there must exist an extra mark of mineness accounting for the sense of bodily ownership in conjunction with the spatial content of bodily sensations.”(4) Problems with Vignemont Patients suffering from somatoparaphrenia are delusional—can such cases be truly taken seriously? Many positions, including Vignemnont’s, need to elucidate the nature of the mark of mineness. There are many positions--(see next) but there is little agreement: Various positions on mineness:
Sensory (Bermudez): - (i) there is a mark of mineness but it is not a separate sensation - (ii) it can be explained in mere sensory terms - “A body part is marked as mine if its sensations are experiences within the experienced body (boundedness) and if their locations are experienced relative to the disposition of the body as a whole (connectedness).”(4) Sensorimotor or agency: Vignemont: “…bodily sensation is mine if it falls within my body schema” - Agency here means that a sensation is mine if it is poised to be used for initiating bodily actions that I or You take ownership of. For this to happen the bodily sensation must fall within Your body schema. Interoceptive position: Damasio(1999) and Seth (2013): - Interoceptive: related to internal bodily sensations. - “a sensation is marked as Mine or Yours if it is properly integrated within a certain set of interoceptive signals (Damasio, 1999)”(5). - Seth (2013): Updated the view with predictive coding framework: “the brain actively infers “which signals are most likely to be “me”” on the basis of statistical correlations between interoceptive and exteroceptive signals. Such an active inference would explain and modulate the mark of mineness.”(5) Affective(emotional): Vignemont (2016): “ narcissistic view to the effect that a bodily sensation is marked as mine if it falls within my “protective body-schema”, that is, the body I care for in a special, protective way, the body that has a distinctive “narcissistic” quality.”(5) Cognitive position: Alsmith (2015): “whether I feel a given limb as mine, for example, depends and whether I judge—or even, in some cases, merely imagine—that it is mine.”(5) Depersonalization: deficit of the awareness of sensations as one’s own “Depersonalized patients typically report feeling estranged from their body. This alienation usually involves the impression of not owning some of one’s bodily parts. …Cambridge Depersonalization Scale reads “Parts of my body feel as if they didn’t belong to me.” Patients can in fact complain of feeling their whole body as alien “I could look down at my hands and see them writing, explains a patient of Shorvon (1946)’s in a very typical report, but they don’t seem to belong to me”. (6) “It can affect emotions, memories, imaginings, perceptions and any other kind of mental states. Patients can deny that all such states seem to be theirs to them.” “Depersonalization can…affect the awareness of our actions as our own—something often called the sense of agency —patients often complaining that their actions seem alien (not theirs) and mechanical (see Billon (2015, 2016) for an overview).” “the patients’ awareness of themselves as “I”s—call it the sense of oneself —gets impaired as well: some patients are inclined not to use the first-person and talk about themselves as if they had only an external, third-person access to themselves (see Billon (2016a)). If we call “forms of self-awareness” the sense of ownership, agency and oneself, we can say, to sum up, that depersonalization involves disorders of all forms of self-awareness.”(9) Sensation versus sense of ownership “The problem with these patients’ bodily sensations seems to be in fact a problem of the sense of ownership for sensations—the awareness of one’s sensations as one’s own—rather than of awareness proper. When the patient says he does not feel sensations in his back, for example, the problem seems to be that although he feels these sensations, he does not feel them as his, or to put it differently, that it does not seem to him that he himself feels these sensations” On their view: Moutier and Dugas (1911): “…the sense of bodily ownership does not reduce to the spatial content of our bodily sensations but involves an extra mark of mineness, that normally accompanies all mental states, explains self-awareness in general, and would be altered in depersonalization. This extra mark of mineness is moreover primitive in that it does not reduce to the available reductive theories purporting to account for it in terms of sensory capacities, cenesthesia (interoception), agency or affectivity.”(9) The case of depersonalization presents a real problem for applying a central and grounded theory of the experience of mineness that accompanies all bodily, affective and cognitive experiences or states that refer to
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oneself. What an individual feels in a given environment and what motivate a given individual in such circumstances Depersonalization: Neglecting interceptive and exteroceptive world, BLUNTING removal of expected human emotions, it is dialed down so much that it created stress and gives raise to questions in regards to why do I do not have a FAMILIAR reaction to the world. Onset: prolong stress, drugs/alcohol, sleepless nights Derealization: when the subjects or the person say they do not feel that the world’s external to them is real, They don’t feel real to themselves – amygdala and insula goes though abnormal activities Buddhisim: live a less attached life related to the world using meditations, when we get overly invested in the world emotionally we get invested emotionally to the people in our life – which influences us to experience positive and negative emotions (TAKES EMOTIONAL TOLL ON US) when overly attach disappointment and suffer (DUKKHA) is apparent, therefore, to lessen the suffer and to be a happier person at the end of the day – practice partial removal of/from the world

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