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RLST 100 (Online) Spring 2016: Introduction to Religious Studies
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Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Leona Anderson - Sunday, 8 May 2016, 9:44 AM
Identify as many similarities and differences as you can between Aboriginal religions and the religions we have studies so far. How might some of these practices/beliefs improve other
religions that we have studied?
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by Chelsea McLaren - Monday, 6 June 2016, 2:08 PM
Like many religions, Aboriginal religion is characterized by having a god or gods who created people. Aboriginal religions have multiple gods, like Hinduism, these gods may take
many forms and/or shapes and are normally depicted in some tangible, recognizable form. A coming of age ceremony is also celebrated with Aboriginal religions for both boys and
girls. Judaism and Confucianism also have ceremonies that celebrate a person coming of age. The belief of creation is a popular belief in Sikhism, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism,
Christianity, Buddhism, and aboriginal religions. Different than some religions First Nations have many different creation stories that do not have the same deity creating earth and
people. I think something other religions could practice or belief is the love for nature. Native Americans believed that humankind ought to live in a way with nature I believe that if
all religions believed this it could improve them.
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by Faith Ogundipe - Wednesday, 15 June 2016, 8:11 AM
I like how you are comparing it but one thing i was wondering. for clarification. Does the aboriginal religion have many "gods" and believe in a god or is it more spirits and
connecting with mother nature and so fourth. I got the sense that they believe in a higher power but not labeling it god as more for a easier explanation? what do you guys
say? maybe i miss interprerted
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by Abigail Tremblay - Sunday, 19 June 2016, 2:37 PM
Faith-
That is along the same lines as I was thinking too. I never gathered that Aboriginal religions had god(s), rather they seem to revere their ancestors and their spirits as
well as the spirit of the earth and nature. Even when we look at the stories of creation, it is not human-like gods that made everything, it is animals. Aboriginal religions
are so different from other religions, that it is a bit difficult to grasp!
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by Ronda Harrison - Tuesday, 21 June 2016, 8:39 PM
Responding to Faith and Abigail
From my understanding of Aboriginal religion, spirits live in each being on earth rather than having a God or Gods that we worship to. I kind of take it to mean
that we must respect all that is around us, similar to respect and loving God, if that makes sense. Instead of being one entity, I see the Aboriginals respecting all
that is around us and being respectful because all of it(right down to the dirt beneath our feet) is God.
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by Omar Alsaady - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 3:45 PM
Hey Chelsea,
I agree with what you are saying. You are right. There are a number of deities that aboriginal religions may depict belief in and there are things and symbols that may depict
these. I would just like to add on to this. These things may be leaves, rocks or even rivers that are either thought to be created by the God or Gods or things that are believed
to be possessing a soul, normally that of a deity. This is called Animism.
You have also pointed out that there is the coming of age ceremony celebrated by them but there are also various other ceremonies celebrated by them and no one single
ceremony can be specified.
Yes, love of nature could improve them but this is already depicted by all other religions. No religion talks about not loving nature, right? However, yes, if this idea was
emphasized upon, it could make much of a difference.
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by Shelby McGillivray - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 9:26 PM
Chelsea,
I agree with what you have said. I think if other religions practiced their love for nature, the world could be a better place. Aboriginals love the Earth and nature and show this
love by their ceremonies, rituals and practices. I like how you specifically named the other religions that have similarities/differences and said what the similarities/differences
are.
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by Farhima Rahman - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 10:25 PM
In response to Chelsea McLaren.
I really like your comparison of Aboriginal religion and other religions we have studied so far. But I personally feel that Aboriginals do not necessarily have multiple gods, but
rather they see it as spirits. They believe that those spirits are generally found in plants, trees, animals, etc. hence why preserving nature is their fundamental principle in life,
because just like humans everything in the natural world possesses a soul. I find their views are often similar to that of Shinto. Shintoists as well do not necessarily see The
Kama as gods, but rather a spirit that takes the form of everything on Earth. Just like most religions, Aboriginals also believe in the creation of the world, but unlike in Islam,
Judaism, Hinduism, and Christianity where God has created the world, Aboriginals believe that animals created the world (example: Turtles representing Mother Earth). I
guess the main difference I see between Aboriginals and the other religions, is that the other religions show their devotion and respect to a specific figure/entity, whereas
Aboriginals show devotion to everything that is visible on Earth. Therefore, I personally feel that not only the love for nature but their respect for everything surrounding them
is also a principle that could improve other religions.
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by Faith Ogundipe - Wednesday, 8 June 2016, 1:38 PM
Personally, I would say that there are a few similarities that can be seen in other religions and in aboriginal practices. The difference though is to whom or what each religion
believes to or prays to. The ultimate similarity highlighted is they all believe in some sort of power. Power or reasoning for why things happen. From karma, to Jesus, the son of
god, or the mother of Jesus mary, to Budha and following in his steps even after he is gone. So to sum up there are some similarities and to improve some of these other religions
could be to develop further on some of the practices which derive from aboriginal practices like the way they see human relations as important and taking back the human
connection towards other practices.
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by Jenna Neufeld - Tuesday, 14 June 2016, 9:36 PM
Aboriginals have a great appreciation for nature, valuing resources and respecting every being to create balance. This is similar to how Engaged Buddhism tries to educate others
about social issues, like pollution, and their effects to try to create harmony and balance in the world. There are various interpretations of many parts of Aboriginal Religions,
similar to the Christian Bible and the Islam Shari'a's many interpretations. There are many ceremonies and rituals in Aboriginal religions, like most religions, because rituals like
the SunDance, Baptism, and Sabbath day create a sense of unity for the religion.
A big difference is that religious life doesn't exist separately from secular life, which is a main point in Christianity because Christians felt people shouldn't be bound to the religion.
But, Aboriginals believe every part of life is connected. Everyone is equal in Aboriginal Religions, there are no judgments based on class like in the Hindu caste system. There are
no written texts as the bases of Aboriginal religion, something present in Judaism, Christianity, Islam. Instead, traditions are passed orally, which could be an improvement for
other religions because it would allow greater communication and avoid misinterpretations. Aboriginal Religion emphasizes reflection of one's existence, which would benefit
everyone because it would help us to avoid destructing our earth and gain appreciation for life.
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by Chelsea McLaren - Wednesday, 15 June 2016, 9:21 AM
I agree with you that other religions would benefit from adopting some characteristics of aboriginal religions. More religion do need something to help reflect on themselves
and there actions. I think you picked a good characteristics that aboriginal religion currently has in place and it may help the problem of not realizing what ones actions may
cause. I also agree with the difference you had that aboriginal religion believes al things in nature are connected, and I feel like some religions could also use this
characteristic for the same reason, to avoid destructing our earth.
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by Orisha Boychuk - Friday, 17 June 2016, 9:11 PM
This is in response to Jenna Neufeld's post.
I really liked your post and how you connected Aboriginal religions to Buddhism. I did not consider the fact that Buddhists educate others about social issues such as
pollution which is a big topic in Aboriginal religions. I liked your connection between Aboriginal ceremonies and rituals such as the Sundance to other religious rituals such
as Baptism.
I found it interesting how you wrote about how "religious life doesn't exist separately from secular life." I agree that Aboriginals are deeply spiritual in all areas of their life.
Do you think that Christianity is not a religion where religious life is deeply connected to secular life? Perhaps this depends on the branch of Christianity that one would look
at.
Do you think that not having a written down religious text could be detrimental to Aboriginal religions? I think that a lot of important spiritual insights might be lost if someone
was unable to share it with another individual. Would stories be changed as they are being shared? Nothing is every told the same way twice. However, I agree that there
is something powerful about sharing religious beliefs orally rather than just providing a written text.
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by Jenna Neufeld - Friday, 17 June 2016, 11:15 PM
Orisha Boychuk,
I would have to say that I do not think Christianity is deeply connected to secular life. It may have been at one point, but the text states that Christianity went through
the process of secularization, the complete separating of church and state. Also, today, many religions remain separate from political laws. We have many religions,
and a single law.
I think that not having a written doctrine could cause problems to Aboriginal religions. Things could get missed, misunderstood, or changed from story to story.
However, I think there are just as many problems with having a written text, one example being misinterpretation. Sharing stories orally would make individuals closer
and more communicative overall, rather than having just the unity of sharing the same religious document. That is why I chose to mention oral teachings as a possible
improvement to other religions.
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by Abigail Tremblay - Sunday, 19 June 2016, 2:48 PM
Jenna-
I love your take on Aboriginal oral teachings! I think whether or not things are written down, they can become altered and misunderstood. Just look at the bible
and everyone's different interpretations of the texts! At least in oral teachings, there might be more of an opportunity for clarification and discussions. I think in
structured settings, like churches, the pastor is the one who gets to make the interpretations and it's not really up for discussion. Other religions could certainly
benefit from connecting more through story-telling.
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by Caroline Laoye - Saturday, 18 June 2016, 7:59 PM
To Jenna Neufeld,
As an immigrant, 5 yrs. ago, I was very ignorant about the existence of Aboriginal people not to talk about their religion. The very first thing I learned about the religion as the
time goes by was their love for nature and elders, which I admire. Compare to other religions, Aboriginal religion is usually led or guided by an elderly, who have had the
experience and knowledge.
According to the Government of Canada (2016), It is estimated that 4 to 10 percent of older adults will experience one or more forms of abuse at some point during their
senior years. This is quite sad. Aboriginal religion believes that much respect should be given to the elderly; I think this realization should be adapted in other religions and
individuals in general.
Reference
The Government of Canada (2016).
Elder Abuse Modules
. Retrieved from http://www.esdc.gc.ca/eng/seniors/funding/pancanadian/elder_abuse.shtml
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by Abigail Tremblay - Sunday, 19 June 2016, 2:54 PM
Caroline-
Absolutely, I agree! The world could benefit from closer families, as youth with a large support system fair much better in adulthood. Elderly care is certainly a huge
issue, if respect for elders was more central in our culture it would make a huge difference.
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by Samantha Lautsch - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 10:14 PM
Hi Caroline,
Thank you so much for sharing this perspective on the elderly. You have pointed out the difference between how people in western culture treat the elderly, and how
this who follow Aboriginal traditions treat the elderly and that is something I never would have thought of when taking up this topic. I learned in Sociology last semester,
that in some places in the world, its illegal to abandon your elderly family members and you have to support them until they die. I think abandonment is one of the forms
of abuse that are included in that statistic you shared. I think the world would benefit from learning more from our older generations that have more knowledge and
experience than us. I completely agree with you about treating the elderly with more respect and I appreciate your creative response.
Thanks,
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by Amy Kapeller - Saturday, 18 June 2016, 8:01 PM
This is a reply to Jenna's post.
I like how you have clearly outlined the positive practices Aboriginals have in place. Balance is a key to Aboriginal religions. The similarities you compared to Christian,
Islam, and Buddhism all are clear and understandable.Similar to almost all other religions the rituals, ceremonies and reasonings are unique. I like how you explained that a
difference in Aboriginal life is that their religious life does not exist seperate from secular life. This is an important point and really emphasizes their concept of connection.
Oral traditions are also a huge difference from many other religions as you said most religions have written texts.
I agree in the sense that we should all take into consideration the aboriginal appreciation for life.
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by JayCee Dallyn - Monday, 20 June 2016, 9:42 AM
Jenna you made excellent connections between aboriginal religions and the other religions we have studied. Your statement comparing the caste system of Hinduism and
the lack thereof in Aboriginal religion is an excellent point. This is evidenced by the respect the aboriginals shared within their culture, they especially respected elders and
held them in high esteem; however, men and women were seen as equals with no group of individuals being considered lesser beings. As well your point on the aboriginal
tradition of passing down teachings orally as opposed to written is explained excellently. Excellent post.
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by Ronda Harrison - Tuesday, 21 June 2016, 8:45 PM
In response to Jenna
I really like the fact that you pointed out that everyone is equal in Aboriginal religions. I do agree that is true but I also want to add that aboriginals respect elders and people
such as shaman's for their knowledge. They also do not treat woman a subservient and are respectful of the role that woman play. They are a more egalitarian religion and
society than most other religions that were built on patriarchy.
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by Kelly Granil - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 11:27 AM
In Response to Jenna Neufeld's post:
Respecting the nature is one of the Aboriginal beliefs that I always think when asked about the beliefs that they follow. I also agree that they are really connected and sees
everything as a ripple effect. I believe that always finding balance and equality is one of the things that we should follow in this time, because I feel that we are too inclined to
giving each other status and doing our best to rise above other people and we mostly forget to care for the people around us. I like how Aboriginal treats everyone with equal
respect which makes their lives more peaceful and meaningful.
Thank you.
Kelly Granil
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by Tiffany Klemack - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 11:41 PM
Kelly Granil,
LOVE how you brought up equality!! I also have noticed that the aboriginal religion does not discriminate between men and women. In other religions like Islam, women
have to cover themselves extensively, or in Buddhism women have to fight for respect. In the aboriginal religion everyone is one with nature and with each other and
goes through the same "enlightenment " process to obtain a spiritual guardian.
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by Saeed Alsaqqaee - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 4:15 PM
I agree with you that Aboriginal religions do in fact emphasize on the love for nature and another similarity between these and Buddhism is the concept of spirituality and
how both these are less rigid than all other religions of the world which is why at times there is a debate on whether aboriginal religions and Buddhism are religions or not.
Also, there are ceremonies and customs that are practiced by aboriginal as well as all other religions for example the coming of age ceremony is practiced by aboriginal
religion and Judaism and Christianity etc.
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by Ahmed Altharman - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 5:51 PM
In response to Jenna:
I agree with what you said. However, I believe the main difference between aboriginal religions and other religions is that while most other religions believe in one God, aboriginal
religions mostly follow one or multiple deities.
Also I like how you have raised the point about the rituals which is quite an important one but what rituals are similar between the two types of religions?
You also have no mentioned how these are communities and worship symbols and things like leaves, stones etc which is quite an interesting characteristic of Aboriginal religions.
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by Madisson Shearer - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 9:05 PM
In response to Jenna,
I love your comparison about how Aboriginal religion and other religions can be interpreted differently. They are not meant to have one right or wrong answer, but to have
many interpretations. Great post!
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by Ashley Landers - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 9:48 PM
Hi Jenna,
I think its a very interesting point you bring up about Aboriginal religious traditions being linked so closely to every aspect of every day life. There is no separation between
religion and culture and tradition, religious traditions are deeply ingrained into every aspect of daily life. There is a sense of equality, as everything has a spirit, everything
has value. No one spirit or being is superior to another. There are traditional rituals to celebrate almost every stage of life, once again showing how embedded Aboriginal
religious traditions are.
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by Orisha Boychuk - Friday, 17 June 2016, 8:56 PM
There are many similarities and differences between Aboriginal religions and other religions we have studied so far in this course. Aboriginal religions believe that the natural
world is extremely important and of great significance. Confucianism is similar in the fact that they believe in the importance of 5 elements in the world (fire, wood, water, soil,
metal). These items are all connected to nature.
Aboriginal peoples are a very diverse culture with different languages, norms and ways of living. This affects religion. This diversity is similar to that of Christianity. There are
many differing beliefs and values within Christianity. There are also many different branches of the religion including Catholicism, Protestantism, Lutheranism, Pentecostal, etc.
Chinese religions are also very diverse and include Confucianism, Daoism, and Buddhism.
Aboriginal people worship and believe in spirits. These spirits are found in all parts of nature and every living creature.
Daoism is similar because they also believe in spirits in
heaven, earth and the underworld. Christianity is different because Christians believe in God and not in multiple spirits.
Shaman’s play an important part in Aboriginal religions. They act as interpreters or guides on the behalf of others in the community. Shaman’s are able to connect with the spirit
world and communicate with the spirits. This is similar to Chinese religions such as Confucianism. Shamans are also a big part of Chinese religions and are trained to
communicate with the spirit world.
Aboriginal religions have a strong connection to nature. They believe in living in harmony with the land and with each other. This is similar to Hinduism where they believe that all
life is valuable and that it is important to value other people. Hindu's also believe in Karma which emphasizes that acts and deeds performed by an individual always return back
to the individual whether good or bad.
There are no written texts to form the basis of Aboriginal religions/beliefs. This is much different than other religions such as Islam, Christianity and Judaism where they have a
particular holy book (Quran for Islam, the Bible for Christianity and the Torah for Judaism). Hinduism is more similar to Aboriginal religions in the fact that Hinduism does not have
a formal religious text either.
Information is passed down orally from generation to generation in Aboriginal religions. Stories, teachings, values, etc. are shared orally. Islam is similar to this in the fact that
recitation of the Quran is extremely important. Even though the Quran is written down, it began as an oral tradition.
Bravery, fortitude, generosity and wisdom are important values in Aboriginal religions. Hindu's also have 4 goals that they value (Dharma- virtue/order, Artha- wealth/success,
Kama- pleasure and Moksha-release).
Ceremonies are extremely important in Aboriginal religions. Hinduism is similar because they have many rituals that they engage in such as chants and particular prayers to a
deity.
There are many aspects of Aboriginal religions that would definitely improve other religions. For instance, their values on bravery, fortitude, generosity and wisdom would help all
of the other religions, especially the Aboriginal value of generosity. If people would help others and be generous with their time and resources, then the world would be a much
more peaceful place to live in. Generosity is a powerful force that not only changes the life of someone else, but enriches the life of the giver. The ceremonies and rituals found in
Aboriginal religions might help other religions such as Shinto because structured activities allow for a deeper connection to a deity, spirit or other god. Ceremonies might help
followers of the Shinto religion to become more spiritual and connected to the world around them.
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by Yanxing Wang - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 10:50 PM
Reply to Orisha Boychuk
Thanking you for a very thourough and well-thought and written post. I would like to add some points that do not differ but maybe adding some dimensions.
I agree with you that Aboriginal traditions do not rely on a formal or other written text or scripture. As well as being a point to compare/contrast with other religions, it does
contribute to our greater understanding of the role of oral tradition, and in this respect also Elders as the key transmission of the oral traditions. In this regard we can
compare to other traditions we have studied: Wasn't Christianity a series of oral traditions until long after Christ's death? Islam was carried forward by oral tradition, as is
Confucius, Daoism and lots of Buddhism.
It cautions us to be wary of too much accreditation to those who have a written scripture or text. There is the question in other religions of orthodoxy -- those who belief the
sacred texts of their faith are word-for-word transcriptions communicated by God. Of course, other religions such as Reform Judaism and many elements within Christianity
take a more liberal approach to 'stories' as a kind of analogy.
I have read a number of different Aboriginal 'creation' stories, and I do not think that Aboriginal traditions differ greatly from other religions that believe in a single God entity
as a Creator. The forces of creation may not be the sole participant, and likewise in every day life there is not the singular (but often remote) God figure, but I think
Aboriginal traditions include a major religious god-figure, which is also dispersed in nature and in people, whether by active spirits or the essence of beings, including
animate and inanimate objects.
Lastly, I think for anyone to truly understand and appreciate Aboriginal religious traditions we need to understand "Aboriginal ways of knowing." There are warnings to not be
overcome or over-influence by Western perceptions about knowledge. A key author on many of these subjects is named Frideres. Friederes (2011) stating in chapter 1
(Knowing Your History) “The contents of written history reflect the points of view of those who have written it, just as the oral history of a people will reflect the world view of
those who keep it and transmit it from one generation to the next, in countless tellings of tales, myths, legends, and genealogies” (page 1).
This is a contrast because the
Aboriginal ways of knowing involve this type of teaching and learning in oral traditions.
“In Western ways of knowing, empirical evidence is the key to knowledge and is
superior to any other kind of knowledge. In contrast, the primary characteristic of Indigenous ways of knowing is the focus on relationships—all things are interconnected and
therefore relevant” (Frideres Chapter 3: Indigenous Ways of Knowing, page 49).
Frideres, James (2011) First Nations in Twenty-First Century. Don Mills: Oxford University Press..
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by Caroline Laoye - Friday, 17 June 2016, 10:06 PM
One of the similarities between Aboriginal religions and previously studied religions include the importance of symbols.
Aboriginal religion carries with them the symbols and meanings of these as groups dispersed into other regions (Anderson, 2010). The Aboriginal religions also have an
attachment to ancestors in the form of stories and Myths such as the Earth Diver story and Shamans.
One of the differences includes European influence. The religion has gone through few changes due to interaction with Europeans. This led to interruption of continual education
from generation to generation. In areas where sustained contact occurred—French missionaries baptized many Aboriginal peoples into Catholicism (Canadian Encyclopedia,
2016).
Some practices that other religion can learn from Aboriginal religion are the sense of balance and contentment. Aboriginal religion values equilibrium e.g the medicine wheel.
Anderson, L. (2010).
Introduction to Religious Studies.
University of Regina. Retrieved from USB Drive.
Canadian Encyclopedia. (2016).
Indigenous People Religion.
Retrieved from http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/religion-of-aboriginal-people/
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by Jenna Neufeld - Friday, 17 June 2016, 11:21 PM
Caroline Laoye,
I love how you included the difference between European influences. A main purpose of colonization in the early years was to transform most Aboriginals into Catholics. This
colonization was focused on changing the Aboriginal religion; other religions, like Christianity, did not have to worry about this.
I think it would be very important for other religions to learn a sense of balance and contentment. We need balance in our lives. For example, instead of focusing on so much
material things, people should stop and focus on the natural things in our world once in a while. I agree that the sense of contentment would be very beneficial. We seem to
always be looking for more - more answers, more money, more stuff, etc. and I think all religions should learn to be content and appreciate what we all have been given.
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by Alexandra Burnett - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 1:36 PM
Caroline,
Great post. I like how you pointed out how significant symbols are in both Aboriginal religions as well as the other religions that we have studied. I also really like how you
pointed out that European influence as a difference. Many religions have not undergone the same type of colonization that Aboriginal tribes have gone through. I think it's
important to educate individuals on the impact that the European influence did have on this culture. I also like your final point about how balance and contentment can be
passed on to other religions to learn from, and that equilibrium is very significant and should be considered in other religions.
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by Riyadh Al-awbathani - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 5:05 PM
In response to Caroline:
I agree with you but you haven't really identified the differences between aboriginal religions and other religions. There are symbols but the main difference is that aboriginal
religions require worshiping things such as twigs, leaves and even stones that the people believe possess the soul of the deities or deity that they worship.
Also, each clan may have a specific symbol that represents them. This may a bird or anything that represents the deity.
Other than this, the deities are classified into three categories i.e. Creation, Ancestral (Like the one you mentioned) and Totemic beings.
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Therefore, the difference between aboriginal religions and others outweigh the similarities.
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by Emmanuel Joy Gaudia - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 11:27 PM
To Caroline
I like how you explained the importance of symbols to Aboriginal Religions. Moreover, they carry those symbols with them as they wander into other regions. They have
meanings for animal symbols too which is quite unique and interesting. And I would like to add that people on other religions should also observe how Aboriginal Religions
respect the nature. It one of their best traits
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by Amy Kapeller - Saturday, 18 June 2016, 7:47 PM
To begin with Aboriginal religion is similar to many of the other religions we have studied through this course in more than one way. Like a variety of others, Aboriginal religion is
characterized by having a god or gods that created people and the surroundings. Again similar to other religions, Aboriginals believe that there was a particular creation period at
the beginning of time. Each Aboriginal groups usually believes in a number of different deities, rather than only one god. This differs from some of the religions we have looked at
but it also is similar to others.
A practice that may differ from other religions we have focused on is the practice of hunting. Hunting is a large part of Aboriginal life, where as it is not as important to religions
such as Christianity, Islamic, or Judaism. They also value wisdom, which is a unique concept.
Also similar to almost every other religion we have looked at, Aboriginals also take part in ceremonies and sacred events.
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by Brayden Folk - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 9:45 AM
I agree with you that hunting is a large part of Aboriginal traditions. Aboriginal religions believe that hunting is somewhat of an art with an objective to return with a sufficient
amount of food for the whole camp until another hunt is needed. With much respect these hunter groups ensure that game is obtained in a respectful manner by conserving
and not depleting the animal world. This is also extremely different in the eyes of Buddhism and Hinduism believers as well.
Buddhism teaches that one of the most important qualities we should have as human beings is respect for all life. This includes respect for animals and insects. Buddhists
believe in the process of reincarnation and believe that every animal has a soul within that has died and is living their next life.
Hinduism teaches that killing innocent animals causes bad karma with harmful consequences. Therefore, Hindu's can only make use of an animals fur and meat if said
animal has died from natural causes.
Therefore, hunting is frowned upon within Buddhism and Hinduism as well.
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by Abigail Tremblay - Sunday, 19 June 2016, 1:18 PM
There are many similarities and differences between Aboriginal religions and the other religions we have studied throughout the course. Some examples include the following.
Aboriginal religions are similar to Christianity in that they both have creation stories, ideas about an afterlife, human relationships, and the supernature. A major difference is that
Aboriginal religions see the supernatural, nature and human aspects of life as one and Christians see the supernatural as separate from humankind and nature.
Taoism also has some similarities with Aboriginal religions in that they both strive to connect humans back to the earth and unite them. They see the two as connected and
resulting from and affecting the other. According to Varner, G. R. (2010) "Tao God is a universal, ruling power, a power personified only through the wind and the mountains and in
nature itself. A similar concept among Native Americans."
I think other religions could be improved by incorporating some of the ideas from Aboriginal religions. One of the main things that they teach is unity and oneness with the earth
and humanity. I think that if we all were taught this view on life, we would be more compassionate and caring towards one another and be less likely to engage in so much
fighting over beliefs.
Varner, G. R. (2010, January). A Comparison Between Chinese Taoism and Native American Religious Tradition. Retrieved June 19, 2016, from
http://www.uthorsden.com/visit/viewarticle.asp?id=53905
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by Eilysh Kirkpatrick - Sunday, 19 June 2016, 6:14 PM
As I read the textbook some points that I found in Aboriginal beliefs that were similar to the other religions were:
- Beliefs and traditions are passed down through generations
- The worship all animals like Hinduism
- There was a creator of beliefs- Sir Edward Taylor
-many people have their own idea about spirits, dual worlds and ideas about how these worlds influence how we act and treat others.
-Systems and beliefs are tied to practices
=Prayer is an acceptable activity- any given group has protocol for prayer
-expectations of the benefits of prayer
-Shaman- a guide
-They have set values and ceremonies
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by JayCee Dallyn - Sunday, 19 June 2016, 8:13 PM
Similarities:
A creator- Belief that something created the world and everything in it.
Symbolism- Use of symbols to express meaning in their beliefs ex: the cross, star of David
Passing down teachings- The beliefs and traditions are passed on from generation to generation.
Hierarchy- The Aboriginal had Chiefs who were in charge, while religions like Buddhism has the Dalai Lama and Christianity has a Pope; however, there were many chiefs in
aboriginal tradition.
Differences:
Role of Women- Women were always highly respected in Aboriginal culture. Women were held in high esteem and played a major part in the decision making processes.
Oral teachings- The aboriginals held used oral teachings to pass down knowledge and history while other religions use written texts as a major basis for their religions. (Islam can
be similar to aboriginal in the sense they believe oral to be more meaningful; however, they also have written text Qur'an)
End of life- Aboriginal traditions believe that upon your death you go back to mother earth and become part of nature. There is no eternal afterlife like in Islam and Christianity.
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by Iliana Roman - Tuesday, 21 June 2016, 8:40 PM
JayCee, one of the differences I also found and like about this religion is the role of women as you mentioned, they don't discriminate women and women are seen as equal,
not like in other religions such as Judaism, Islam and sometimes even in Christianity where women are not respected and are abused.
You also mentioned that they have oral teachings to pass down knowledge and history, which is good but my question is, has that caused distorted teachings to new
generations? as there is nothing written down, one can easily interpret differently, add or delete some valuable information that was not there before.
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by Jessica Pouliot - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 9:41 PM
JayCee,
I am responding to this post because I see that there are some differences that you have mentioned which I did not include in my post. I would have to agree with them as
the role of women was very disrespected in most of the religions that we learned about. It is known to most, whether Aboriginal or not, that women were very respected
because of the many ways they influenced their children and everyone around them. I did not talk about the oral teaching, but as I read your answer, that is very true, as
most religions use writings instead of verbal teachings. I think that this is very important because people understand better when what they are learning is out into context.
Therefore, this would be one of the things that could be changed to improve other religions. If those religions used their teachings verbally, I think that it would be more
influential allowing for more younger people to become involved early.
Thanks for your post! It helped me learn a little more than I already knew!
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Ethan Gardner - Tuesday, 21 June 2016, 10:56 AM
In many ways Aboriginal religion is similar to the other religions we have looked at but there are also a few differences. Aboriginals believe in a god that created the earth and
humans but instead of praying to this god they pray to certain groups of deities symbolized in some tangible form. They also believe in a time of creation but the way humanity
continued after that time is where things differ. Most other religions and beliefs started long after their believed creation period from a prophet being sent from god to deliver his
message whereas all of the aboriginal beliefs stem from that original creation period. They do not believe everything has a soul but they do believe that every creature is a
representation of someone or something from that original creation period.
I think the greatest lesson we can learn from the Aboriginal religion is to value and treat every being around us as though it was once one of the original beings. Many Christians
would act differently if they truly believed their dog may actually be a representation of Jesus or if a Muslim believed his father was the reincarnation of Muhammad. I believe that
what has caused so many wars and issues between religions is that they value "certain things" that do not mesh with other beliefs. Their would be a greater peace in the world if
other religions valued "everything" the way the aboriginal religion does.
http://www.aboriginalculture.com.au/religion.shtml
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by Haley George - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 1:53 PM
Reply to : Ethan Gardner
I like the point you brought up about animism and how aboriginal religions do not exonerate that belief. I think it's a good point to remember that aboriginal religions do not
believe that everything has a soul but was created by a creator(s). I however, have one conflict with one of your statements. You say, "many christians would act differently if
they truly believed their dog may actually be a representation of Jesus or if a Muslim believed his father was the reincarnation of Muhammad". I do know that with
Christianity, there is the belief that we should treat others the same way we would want to be treated (the famous 'golden rule'). It is listed in many verses in the bible that
respect, dignity, and love is something that every living thing is deserving of.
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by Kelly Granil - Tuesday, 21 June 2016, 12:38 PM
The Aboriginal religion seems to be really inclined to their nature (Miller, p.15-35). They serve and get their enlightenment from the nature and everything that are surrounding
them. Aboriginal religions see everything with spirit and needs to be worshipped. Unlike other religions that mostly have one higher power that they really see as their God or
almighty power. Like the other religions they also have sacred places that they go to in order to do their rituals, cleansing and prayers (Miller, p.15-35). In my opinion giving
importance and high respect to the nature and environment as just like how we worship our won Gods we can make a better world not only for ourselves but for other people. For
me this kind of religion of Aboriginals is not only for their own benefit but also for the next generation. I feel that it is great that each of us incorporate our love for our religion and
love for our nature, because there is a wonderful peace that nature can give to us and can help us to absorb the meaning of our religion and how it affects our day to day lives.
Works Cited:
Miller, D. Aboriginal Traditions. Retrieved from: Religious Studies 100:
Introduction to Religious Studies
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by Iliana Roman - Tuesday, 21 June 2016, 7:58 PM
Kelly I agree with you that aboriginals do good in thinking about nature, not only they think about themselves but about other people, other generations, as the care we give
to nature will make us lasts a long time on this planet. In that regards I think they are not selfish in just thinking what is good for them.
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by Iliana Roman - Tuesday, 21 June 2016, 7:45 PM
Very interesting to know that we can learn from other religions, even if we already practice one. Among similarities aboriginal religions have with other religions are:
There is faith in a deity/power/spirit.
There is a religious leader, for them is the Shaman.
They have successors and protocols and ceremonies.
Prayers.
There is a creator.
Sacrifices/vows through fasting and meditation.
They also have a New Year celebration called the Sundance, meaning they also have a calendar.
They also have values
Differences:
One of the big differences they have is that they believe that a person’s spirit may return in human, animals, or plants.
They don’t have a book to follow, their beliefs and knowledge is passed generation to generation.
The power/deity they believe in was never personified.
Men are born and assigned a guardian to admonishes for right against wrong, instead of having to follow a set of rules/law from a book.
They believe in dreams as being the memory of things that happened before.
No tithe/tax to be paid.
We can learn from this religion that there is no emphasis on the gender, there is no discrimination on women like in some religions, they believe in spirits, deities and powers and
in human beings being equal.
They also do not fight over their religion, they do not need to prove that their religion is right or wrong, they just believe and be themselves.
They believe and respect nature: they call it “our mother earth”, something most of us have forgotten. Their customs are probably very primitive but they are for sure inter-
connecting with all natural things and taking care of them.
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I like how you pointed out the fact that there is no inequality between genders. This is such a breath of fresh air hearing this is part of Aboriginal traditions since we have
seen so much gender inequality in this course. I also like your point about "our mother earth", you are totally right when you say that most of us have forgotten about this.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Faisal Sabri - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 11:08 PM
Hi Lliana!
I like the way you have answered the question and I do agree with your point of view. Aboriginal religions or spirituality is not a separate part of life, but is integrated with the
life as one, with nature, and with generations gone before. I feel that up to some level it is embedded into the system how Shinto is into the Japanese culture. They also have
several deities. They both are self-directed, believe in nature. However aboriginal people don’t believe that a small thing such as a rock could possess a soul. A good point in
the religion is that it is egalitarian, providing equal rights and opportunities to everybody. There is no gender discrimination which can be adopted into other religions.
Whereas, in the other religions there are strict conditions on clothing, diet, how to do everyday tasks and so on. The love of nature, and the unity would also be a point that
could be adopted which would make everybody more caring and humble towards each other, instead of dividing up into different sects and fighting over beliefs.
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by Ronda Harrison - Tuesday, 21 June 2016, 8:25 PM
The similarities between Aboriginal traditions and other world religions include the fact that there are rituals or practices for important beliefs within Aboriginal tribes. Some of
these rituals include ceremonies such as the Sundance or Rain dance.
Another similarity is the fact that, although they do not worship any specific gods, they do show respect
to spirits that are in every living being. Also, the central core values of tribes such as the Lakota can also be seen within most other religions. Generosity, in the form of helping
neighbours or giving back is one. The second would be fortitude which could also be found in religions such as Christianity or Islam. Even Judaism, because of persecution,
could be seen as having fortitude. With the third, bravery, one thinks of the Sharia Law(which gives specific instructions on how and when to act) and the practice of Jihad within
Islam. Wisdom, as the fourth core value, talks about how learning from experience and age allows wisdom to grow. Most religions talk about wisdom and having a balanced life
within their religious beliefs. Another similarity is the idea of Shaman which is similar to a Priest, or Monk. These people are interpreters of sorts and are knowledgeable in their
religion.
Some differences include the fact that they don't necessarily subscribe to the belief in any one God and do not believe that one person or prophet came to talk about what God
had instructed his people to do as in the case of Jesus or Allah. Another important difference is the worship and belief that a soul was universal and that it could move from one
body to another or a body to an object. There is also a belief that is grounded in climate and nature. It is important to Aboriginals to not waste and when there was an animal
killed, you used all of and leave nothing to waste. Aboriginals had the mentality of the whole rather than individual where a religion such as Buddhism is concerned with the
individual.
The practice of thinking as a whole group, rather than more individually would be the first step in helping to improve other religions. Also, more emphasis on the surroundings and
seeing "God" in each and every thing surrounding us in our environment would also improve other religions. Instead of focusing on how each "God" is superior and fighting in the
name of God, maybe learning to live with what is around us(ie:the environment or differences of religion) and gain some tolerance would be helpful.
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by Mohammed Jafar Alribh - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 6:23 PM
Hi Ronda,
I totally agree with your point that seeing God in the nature and objects around might improve other religions. Most religions focus on believing in a God they have not seen
themselves, like in Islam and Judaism. Adapting such a concept might help them see things in a more spiritual way and this way they can be religious in everyday life.
Regards,
Mohammed
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Alexandra Burnett - Tuesday, 21 June 2016, 9:28 PM
There are many similarities between Aboriginal religions and the other religions that we have study. A large number of spirits that represent humans and animals are key in
Aboriginal traditions. This is similar to the large number of deities that are seen in Hindu cultures and traditions. In Aboriginal religions, a Shaman is used as a guide and
interpreter in many societal groups, this is similar to the Shinto faith as Shamans are common in this faith as well. Since there are no official sacred texts in Aboriginal religions
such as the bible, transmission of knowledge is mainly relied on by word of mouth and is passed down through generations. Not relying so heavily on a sacred text is something
that could improve other religions, as many of these texts are centuries old. For example, there are many passages in the bible and other texts that can be interpreted as
discrimination towards minorities, such as the LGBTQ community. The Aboriginal tradition of interacting with spirits shows the significance of death in these cultures. Rituals for
sending loved ones who have passed into the spirit world are also significant in Hinduism and Buddhism. Last, but not least, is the fact that Indigenous cultures have faced
repression, which many other religions we have studied so far have experienced as well. One important example of this is the Jewish people of Judaism, they have a large and
significant history of repression.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Orrin Wick - Tuesday, 21 June 2016, 9:36 PM
Similarities that I saw through my studies of the aboriginal faith that made me think of other religions were as follows. The aboriginal people have spiritual people, shamans, which
are similar to priests and prophets of other worldly religions in my mind. The aboriginals used stories to pass down their religious beliefs and this is also similar to other religions.
One of the differences was that the aboriginal people mainly told the stories passing them from generation to generation instead of having a religious book made to hold their
stories. The aboriginals believed in reincarnation of the person into other natural entities, which translates to a few religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and Sikhism. The
religion also has a creation era where the deities created everything in the known world and the aboriginals have ceremonies as well to pray to the deities, both of which are
common in other religions as well.
Although differences may vary from religion to religion the aboriginal faith seemed to share similar qualities with almost every religion we covered in this course, although I have
only mentioned a few traits shared amongst religions above. The differences I could find are that the aboriginal religion has a more substantial amount of deities than other
religions. Another difference I found was that not all aboriginal tribes shared the same belief, which creates the largest religion that has so many different branches of beliefs,
whereas all are considered similar to each other, but they are still considered to be different by their people. Other differences include not wasting any resource they have been
given by the grace of their deity, and their respect for the earth in same regards of not wasting resources they have been given.
The one major point that I have always understood through my learning of aboriginal people has always been the fact that they do not waste what they have been given, and their
respect for the earth. These are probably the two points I would take and try to implement into other religions to improve those religions. A smaller trait I would take would be the
hamblechiya
, that the aboriginals went through, which left a person in isolation to discover themselves. Although I do not know how this would be done in today’s society, I think
that most people in today’s society figure themselves out at a late moment in their lives and the
hamblechiya
would be beneficial in these regards.
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by Sean Boczulak - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 5:13 PM
Hey Orrin,
I like your point on the
hamblechiya
being an important thing that should be brought into other religions. To often I think people in the modern world focus on everything
around them and fail to focus on themselves for an significant amount of time. I think that this practice also ties into the Aboriginal belief in some degree of self teaching
since there are not "hard truths" and most teachings from elders can be interpreted on an individual level.
Also, as you pointed out, the full experience of
hamblechiya
is something hard for myself to imagine in modern society. I think even a less extreme form of this practice
should be incorporated in people's lives.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Brayden Folk - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 9:06 AM
Some differences between Aboriginal religions and the religions we have studies so far include:
Rather than praying to a certain deity that they cannot see, such as the Christian religion, each group/sect generally believes in a wide variety of different deities that can take
the form of a plant or animal, as well as other natural forms.
Many of the religions we have studied included one supreme being that is worshipped, that could also take different names. However, in Aboriginal traditions different groups
believe in different deities.
With respect to the Shinto religion, Aboriginal religions don't believe that all natural objects possess a soul, such as a rock.
Some similarities include:
Believe in a God or Gods who created people and the environment in a certain creation period.
Believe that everything was created during a certain period.
These practices/beliefs would improve other religions we have studied in that they believe in many complex natural deities and issues, and respect nature in it's entirety.
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by Faisal Sabri - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 1:29 PM
Aboriginal religions and other religions have its many distinctive similarities and difference. All religions regardless of its size and supporters strength have its unique beliefs, norm,
tradition, practices and rituals. One of the strong differences between aboriginal religions and other religions is that aboriginal religions are inclined to be a part of everyday life but
for non native religions seems to be formal institutions and is an addition to their everyday life.
Some of the important traits that distinguish aboriginal religions from other religions are that they have a specific geographic location, the use of ritual and artifacts, relatively
uniform environment, community involvement, a fluid and firm structure, and faith in a supreme God. At the core of indigenous traditions is a responsiveness of the basic and
complete connection of symbolic and material life. Different from various non-aboriginal religions, aboriginal religions or spirituality is not a separate part of life, but is integrated
with the life as one, with nature, and with generations gone before.
Obviously, religion plays a vital role in the everyday life of people. All religions including aboriginal religions have definite provisions that have an effect on the everyday lives of
their followers. For almost every religion, there can be conditions on clothing, diet, how to do everyday tasks and so on. For a lot of religions including Christianity have one holy
day of the week but for some indigenous religions, there can be quite a few, and it can vary from week to week. Some of the aboriginal religions believe in several gods or gods
used to take an active role in the daily life of humans. In aboriginal religions, customary beliefs are typically passed on in the forms of oral histories, stories, parables and
principles, and hinge on face to face teaching.
Reference:
Aboriginal Culture. (n.d.). Retrieved June 22, 2016, from http://www.aborignalculture.com.au/
Indigenous Peoples. (n.d.). Retrieved June 22, 2016, from http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/aboriginal-people/
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by Halar Shahani - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 11:35 PM
Hey Faisal,
I like how you summed up the outlook of different aboriginal religions around the world regarding their emphasis on rituals and artifacts and the focus given to community
environment. I also believe that the main difference between the aboriginal religions and non-native religions being the institutional aspect associated with the non-native
religions. I mean when we think about Christianity, Buddhism we associate physical places of worship and institutions such as a church or a temple whereas native religions
provoke a sense being intertwined with nature and harmony and the religion being part of every day life. I mean other religions also emphasise on being how religion should
be integrated in our daily lives, however the world religion and everyday life are often not seemed to be observed in conjunction. Going church on a Sunday is a separate
duty whereas what happens outside of church might not necessarily have religious purpose to it. Just to clarify this is not a general juxtaposition of these religions, its just
how people have developed to adapt to these religions and how large portions of society have subjected to these norms. In addition, I think we can agree that every religion
condemns wrongful acts and preaches peace and harmony however people’s interpretation and societal adaptations to these practices have wreaked conflict and gone
against the very core of what religion condemns us from doing. For example, Jihad and terrorism being associated as one due to media portrayal and political propaganda
but its true purpose is to fight our inner demons and self defense. Therefore some things society can learn from these religions is the ethical responsibility that comes with
religion and how religion should be integrated in our normal lives.
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by Sean Boczulak - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 1:39 PM
Similarities between Aboriginal religions and the religions we have studied included the following:
Symbols were prevelant in the Aboriginal religions, this trait can be seen in all of the religions we looked at in this class. Examples of this include the cross in Christianitly and
the star of David in Judaism.
The concept of a spirit, which is in parallel to a soul in other religions that is not a physical part of humans but is still a part of our identity.
Religious guides exist in Aboriginal religions in the form of Shamen. The Shamen fill a similar role to imam in Islam or a priest in Christianity.
Like many of the older religions, beliefs had been passed orally from generation to generation. This is probably most present in the form of the oral Torah in Judaism.
The idea of balance being important is similar to the Taoist belief of yin and yang. It is focused on taking from and giving to the earth in the Aboriginal religions.
Ceremonies for self purification like the sweat lodge also exist in Aboriginal religions similar to baptism.
Some of the main differences I realized were the following:
Focus on earth as opposed to other worldly powers. I felt this was the largest difference from the other religions where they focus on the other people or deities.
Since the religion is more of a culture, many ideas exist as opposed to one set of truths. This is in complete opposition to ideas such as fundamentalist Judaism or Islam
where there is a definite way to interpret the religion's ideas.
Treating the environment well was taught about more thoroughly than treating other people well. As far as I recall, this is the only religion that is this way.
The lack of one central figure or figures like gods is another large difference that is present in the Aboriginal practices, instead wakan tanka is "all powers in the universe" a
this is what they would pray to.
The beliefs in Aboriginal religions that I feel would be most beneficial to other religions are primarily the teachings of caring for the environment and allowing self interpretation of a
religions teachings. Many religions put no focus on the earth, which is now a large focus for society due to global warming. I feel that more care in this field could have helped us
avoid the state that humanity now finds itself in this regard. In regards to self interpretation, I feel that people will learn better and care more about something if they can
understand it in their own light. When a belief is final there is no way for it to evolve and if a belief becomes outdated it either causes conflict between those that do or don't believe
it or it will die off.
Miller, David Reed, and Leona Anderson. "Aboriginal Traditions." Introduction to Religious Studies. 4th ed. Regina, 2010. Print. Religious Studies 100.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Haley George - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 1:40 PM
"Aboriginal religion, like many other religions, is characterised by having a god or gods who created people and the surrounding environment during a particular creation period at
the beginning of time" (Aboriginal Culture, 2016). This belief among the aboriginal community is common across all the religions that we have studied thus far. Most religions
believe there are/were creator(s) that formed the world at a specific period of time. There are hundreds of myths that aboriginal religions exonerate in their belief systems. Story
telling is huge practice among aboriginal religions and sets it apart from the other religions we have studied in this course. Religions such as Christianity which have
doctrines/scripture which is documented in texts to 'spread the news' is significantly different than that of aboriginal teachings (storytelling). Verbalizing instead of writing/reading is
incredibly important and sacred among aboriginals. Shamans in particular, "function as healers, prophets, diviners and custodians of religious mythology, and are often the
officiants at religious ceremonies" (Smith, 2015). This has similarity to most religions that we have studied, however, a system that was developed by the aboriginals is one of few
that are much more organized in terms of roles of those who are 'spiritually gifted' in the aboriginal community. Those who are clearly spiritually gifted are to be respected and
honoured in ceremonies. Some of these customs/beliefs could improve other religions by teaching the importance of tradition. Teaching practices such as storytelling is much
more intimate with teacher/student than simply a student reading doctrine/scripture from religious texts and therefore, the aboriginal community could teach other religions the
importance of relationship building with elders and the younger generation(s). Other improvements that could be learned from aboriginal religions is that of openness to other
beliefs. There is no one particular aboriginal religion that is accepted among all First Nations and therefore, aboriginals learn to respect other religions and come to realization that
they are all from creator(s). Other religions can learn to be more open in discussion and understanding of different customs/beliefs and be revealed an entirely new spiritually mind
body.
Works Cited
Aboriginal Culture. (2016).
Aboriginal Religion and Ceremony
. Retrieved June 22, 2016, from http://www.aboriginalculture.com.au/religion.shtml
Smith, D. (2015, July 23).
Indigenous People: Religion - The Canadian Encyclopedia
. Retrieved June 22, 2016, from http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/religion-of-
aboriginal-people/
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by Emmanuel Joy Gaudia - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 2:21 PM
Aboriginal religions is like any other religions, they have gods, they have a set of practices, they have ceremonies, values and many more. Moreover, Aboriginal religions have
some certain similarities and differences with other religions. First is with Hinduism. Hinduism is a religion more about enlightenment. The goal is to be a better human being, while
in Aboriginal religions, one of their goals is to give back to the nature. Second is with Buddhism. It has the Four Noble Truths which is conceptual framework for a Buddhist while
the Aboriginal Religions has generosity, bravery, fortitude and wisdom which is their Four central values especially for Lakotas. Christianity as monotheistic religion is different
form Aboriginal religions which has many gods. I think being close to nature which Aboriginal Religion is very good at can have a positive effect on all the people if they imitate it.
The way they try to bring back to the nature is an amazing trait.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Iliana Roman - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 2:39 PM
If other religions try to imitate aboriginal religions as you said about nature, it will have a big impact in the whole world if we all cooperate to take care of nature, we would
see a big change for us, in our climate, in our health and for us and future generations. I agree with you.
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by Farhima Rahman - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 2:37 PM
Aboriginal religion revolves around the spiritual world of nature. Their beliefs and traditions mainly involve in respecting and nurturing earth, and the land they live in. Although
most religions connect themselves with particular divines, whether it is Allah for Muslims, Yahweh for Jews, or the many deities for Hindus, Aboriginals focus on maintaining a
spiritual bond with nature instead. They believe that they should protect and give homage to their land because, it provided them with food and shelter. Unlike most religions,
Aboriginals do not actually have sacred scriptures, instead they rely on transmitting their traditions through oral messages, stories, and lessons that are passed on from one
generation to another. Furthermore, similar to Shintoists who believes in The Kama: an ancient spirit that can be possessed by almost anything from mountains, water, deceased
humans, etc. Aboriginals also believe in numerous amount of spirits that are generally in the form of nature and animals. Therefore, although most religions believe in God, Shinto
and Aboriginals do not necessarily believe in God, but rather in spirits; with the exception of Hindus who believe in not just one but many deities, and Confucians who do not
believe in any God at all, and strictly follows code of conducts and Chinese customs. All religions studied so far, including Aboriginal religion, have specific customs and principles
that individuals abide by in order to devote themselves towards their practices, for instance, Muslims' main principle is to follow Allah, acknowledge the Prophets, and abstain from
all evil, Buddhists' main principle is to not do harm to any living creatures, Confucians' main principle is to serve and maintain a good relation with society, and Aboriginals' main
principle is the respect towards earth. Similarly to most religions, Aboriginals also have particular rituals and ceremonies that they believe will give them purification/peace, and
they also have religious leaders that guide them to the right path, such as the Elders and the Shamans. Additionally, in Aboriginal religion, the creation of the world is also
described, which is also seen in most religions, except in Confucianism (therefore a difference between Aboriginals and Confucians). I personally believe that one major Aboriginal
principle that could improve other religions, is their respect and love towards nature, and their ideology of living in simplicity and unity on earth. This ethic and principle would not
only create more harmony among people, but would also encourage individuals to protect the environment, to which most takes granted for.
Reference:
"Native Spirituality Guide."
RCMP
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Noora Ashrafi - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 2:58 PM
Similarities :
Shinto and Aboriginal both believe in numerous gods
Hindu and Aboriginal both believe that nature is a big part of religion and it should be respected
Confucianism and Aborignal religions have some similarities such as both look upon the improvement of society and the individual themselves. In Aboriginal religions how a
person thinks is very important to how the person interacts with others, I found that something very similar showed up while I was studying Confucianism because self-
improvement is quite important.
Differences
Islam and Aboriginal religions are different because Islam only believes in one God
Christianity and Aborginal religions are different because Christianity follows a very strict sense of rules while Aboriginal religions are more of a spirituality religion we talked
about in the earlier discussion forums. I find that Aboriginal religions are more accepting and don't have as many restrictions as some other religions do.
Sikhism and Aboriginal are different because Sikhs usually cover there hair with a turban while in Aboriginal religions long hair is approved and a majority of men usually have
long hair and don't cover it.
I believe that Shinto and Aboriginal religions can have a positive impact on many other religions. Because with Aboriginal religions it is so vast and there is a reason for everything,
also beliefs can be found anywhere such as rivers, trees, because nature is so important. Some Aboriginal practices involve trying to understand nature and how it came to be,
meditating is also important because it gives people a chance to find themselves and to focus on their mentality that I don't often see in other religions. Shinto
and Aboriginal religions are very self-directed , unlike other religions where there is constant praying to God's and Goddesses, Shinto and Aboriginal religions take some of
that pressure off and it works out because people can put focus and time on themselves instead of worrying that they might anger someone else. Learning how to focus on
yourself but also not completley abandoning religion is something I think that other religions could benefit from because it lets the individual know that even if they make a mistake
it's all right as long as they realize the main cause for it and don't make the same mistake twice.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Samer Dargan - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 5:27 PM
Hi Noora,
I like the way you shed the light on how Aboriginal and Shinto tradition can improve other religions by emphasizing that individuals should focus on themselves but not ignore
the religion at the same time. This also makes the followers to be more spiritual as a person finds or discovers him/her true self in the process, and it is very important role
many religions ignore today. Religions mostly define what is right or wrong, and tell what to do and what not, which seems like standardizing of human beings. By
emphasizing individual focus on self, these religions take that role into consideration unlike the other ones.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Syed Farrukh Mukhtar - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 9:16 PM
Hi Noora,
As I understood from my research, the aboriginals do have one God they call him the creator. He is responsible for all things in this earth, and they pray to him. So in my
opinion, the Aboriginal religions do believe in one God. On the other hand, I like your insight on the fact that they are not so focused on constant praying and other rituals.
They have a wonderful balance of their religion and their everyday life (community). I believe that other religions could use this ideology as it is more freeing and one is less
worried about doing things "the proper way". I believe that there are many more aspects that can be learned from the Aboriginal religions and applied to others, such as the
status of women.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Jiawei Huo - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 9:20 PM
Hi Noora,
I agree most of the points that you mention on the similarities and difference but the contrast between Christianity and Aboriginal religions. I think both Christianity and
aboriginal religions have restriction of rules. for example, Christians never eat any meat within blood on top of that while Aboriginal people have to wear some sort of
decoration that represents their culture. The restriction of Aboriginal people may not so obvious but it is still there.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Omar Alsaady - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 3:30 PM
Unlike many other religions except Hinduism, Aboriginal religions may not depict belief in one God alone. Instead, it signifies belief in a number of deities. Not only this but
Aboriginal people also worship things. These may be deities in tangible form or other things such as leaves, stones etc. This is called Animism which is the belief that all things
possess a soul or whatever object created by the deity implies the existence of the deity itself. They are a form of communities like other religions. However, the number of people
in one single community is much smaller and because of this it could be characterized as a clan. These people observe their surroundings in order to come up with an explanation
for the world with their own theories. This is also known as the dream track which is how aboriginal people understand the world. This is different from other religions in the sense
that there is not a specified theory or path that aboriginal people follow like in other religions but make sense of the world with their own understanding of how it works. Also,
Aboriginal deities are not characterized by a number of qualities all at once like those in other religions but are instead classified into Creation, Ancestral and Totemic beings.
However, there may be a single God that aboriginal people worship just like that in other religions. Hence, the rules surrounding aboriginal religions are less rigid and there is no
set way to define these in one unified form.
http://www.aboriginalculture.com.au/religion.shtml
(Religion and Ceremony, www.aboriginalcullture.com)
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Saeed Alsaqqaee - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 3:58 PM
Aboriginal religions, like all other religions such as Islam and Christianity etc, depict belief in one God. However, this may not be the case in every community. Accordingly, some
clans might actually believe in more than one God, a deity or a number of deities. This is similar to Hinduism, which, too has a number of deities. Also, like all other religions,
aboriginal religions practice a number of rituals and ceremonies for example the coming of age ceremony celebrated by Judaism as well as Christianity.
However, aboriginal communities may be characterized by fewer people unlike the other religions of the world such as Christianity and Islam that have mass following. They
believe in the dream track i.e. they apply their own knowledge of the world to understand their surroundings rather than followings one single path.
Other than this, aboriginal deities can be characterized into three different categories namely, Creation beings that have created the world and all the landscapes in it, ancestral
beings and Totemic beings that are the most original forms of animals or objects.
http://www.aboriginalculture.com.au/religion.shtml
(Religion and Ceremony, www.aboriginalcullture.com)
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Mohammed Alshammari - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 4:23 PM
When we compare the indigenous tradition of Aboriginals to the other traditions studies in this course, we see many differences and similarities
The Chinese religions focus upon worshiping and respecting the ancestors, which mainly reflected in the five relationships of Confucianism. The concept of elders in the
aboriginal can be seen somewhat similar to the concept of ancestors in Chinese religions in a sense that they are to be respected and obeyed, as they are the role models for
the rest of aboriginal society. However, the elders play a greater role when compared to those in Chinese traditions. Elders are teachers who disseminate knowledge to others,
and they are also the law-makers in the tradition, who make just decisions. However, Elders are not solely based on how old someone is with respect to age, and it is defined
by wisdom and experience one has. An elder does not only has to teach the tradition, but also has to tell how to live in accord with it, as he/she has already lived through it. In
this manner, the tradition of Elders is also similar to but broader than the concept of ancestors in Chinese religions.
When we compare the tradition of Daoism to that of Aboriginals, we see that both of them have their own take on nature. Where Daoism focuses upon going with the flow of
nature, Indigenous religion focuses upon using it in a just way, which is reflected in the concept of only taking what is wanted. Most of the rituals of aboriginals can be seen to
praise the earth and it’s environment, which is also reflected in their rituals of singing and dancing. The number four ritual shows how Aboriginals connect to the nature in a way
that there are four directions and four seasons in the world.
All the religions including Aboriginal, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam focus upon collective worship. However, Aboriginals prefer that to be done in a circle without any
segregation. Whereas Islam and Judaism mainly segregate men and women.
When we compare the Aboriginal tradition to that of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, we see that in Aboriginal tradition, human beings are not seen as superior or central to
the creation of the universe, it is believed that the universe has been created for everyone and everything equally as it is made for the humans, which is reflected in the Innu
culture when they focus on only taking as much as it is needed when it comes to animals, and in their concept of sharing with others. They believe that universe is made equal
for everything and every living creature. While on the other hand, in Islam and Christianity, the human beings are central to concept of creation, as it is evident that Bible and
Quran both talk about how Adam and Eve were created and sent to the universe from heavens and there is no mention of such creations about animals or other creatures.
They are seen to be created for humans.
When we compare hinduism and aboriginal tradition, we see that there are many Gods and deities in both religions. However, in aboriginal traditions, these Gods or spirits are
believed to be given by one supreme creator or spirit. On the other hand, there are three main Gods in Hinduism who either reincarnate in different forms or have more power
over other deities.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Riyadh Al-awbathani - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 4:42 PM
Aboriginal people may believe in one God but in most cases there are multiple deities that they believe in. This is hence similar to Hinduism. Also, like Buddhism, this does not
follow one single path and has less strict rules regarding a religion. This can be seen in the idea of dream track. This is when aboriginal people try to make sense of the world
through their own understanding and knowledge.
The only reason why aboriginal religions are identified as religions is because these require worshiping scared things and symbols such as twigs, leaves and even rocks. These,
the people believe, either possess a soul (probably of the deity) or are created by the deity himself, hence signifying the deities significance.
Also, like other religions, aboriginal religions celebrate customs and ceremonies like that of Baptism or the coming of age etc. However, these do not contain scared texts such as
Quran in Islam and The Bible in Christianity.
Moreover, these religions are also characterized by smaller communities.
The way in which other religions can be improved is making them more spiritual and less rigid in nature and helping the individual think logically and out if the box so that they
would come up with their own understanding of something through their own knowledge, which is similar to the case in aboriginal religions.
http://www.aboriginalculture.com.au/religion.shtml
(Religion and Ceremony, www.aboriginalcullture.com)
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Jill Jacobson - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 10:27 PM
Hi Riyadh,
You make a good point that Aboriginal religions focus more on personal understanding and knowledge than other religions do. An example of this is when, in some groups,
teenagers are sent away for a period of time to be on their own and to wait on the spirits, in order to find whatever is true for them personally. This idea of having individual
perceptions and experiences with the deities/spirits in their culture is indeed different from many other religions. Christianity and Islam for example have a specific god to be
revered and followed, and specific rules for the followers. You mentioned that it might be a good thing for other religions if they were more like Aboriginal ones in this way--if
they were focused more on the spiritual aspect, with less strictness. I believe that for many believers of different religions, however, their specific guidelines and universal
beliefs are important to them, and that they still experience the spiritual aspect of religion. I find it interesting how the textbook said that the Lakota religion did not exist apart
from everyday secular life--this is definitely different from many of the religions we have studied.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Kamille Teichreb - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 4:47 PM
The Aboriginal religion has Gods that created the environment and people similar to Christianity. Similar to Hinduism where they have different names for the gods in Aboriginal
religions who have a variety of different dieties they pray too. Like almost all of the religions we have studied they have ceremonies and rituals they practice.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Samer Dargan - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 5:01 PM
Aboriginal tradition can be seen as a polytheistic religion. We see that they believe in many spirits and and deities, but then we see that these spirits are empowered by one
supreme creator or spirit. we can compare it to a polytheistic religion like Hinduism where there are many Gods and deities, but all of them can be seen to supervised or controlled
by Brahma, Vishnu, and Rama. However, we can also compare the aboriginal tradition to that of Islam, Judaism, and Christianity in a sense that they also see one creator of the
universe, which is Jehova, Allah, or God. Although aboriginals worship many Gods or spirits, they still see one supreme one. In Christianity, Jesus is seen as the son of God, who
followed the orders of God throughout his life, and even ascended to heaven because he was called by 'father'. In this way we can compare the belief of Christianity and
Aboriginals.
The tradition of Aboriginals is limited to certain geographical limitations, and we can compare this to the tradition of Shinto which is also limited to its geographical area. Although
both Shinto and Aboriginals see spirits in the objects and creatures, Aboriginals dont believe that every object has a spirit like Shinto does. We can compare Taoism's going with
the nature to Aboriginal tradition in a sense that aboriginals focus on making their own understanding of the world and the universe naturally, and by doing so, they go with the
nature.
Aboriginal tradition is different from the other religions in a sense that it is mainly based on spirituality, which is evident from their beliefs in spirits and dreams. The other religions
believe in the historical figures (Buddhism) and Supreme beings whom they cannot see around by themselves. Whereas Aboriginals make their own sense of the world and
believe in what they see. Instead of having a set scripture, Aboriginals rely on elders passing information, which shows how belief and spirituality is strengthened in Aboriginal
tradition when compared to other religions. This can be helpful to other religions for strengthening their spirituality and can teach them how to strengthen it. If other religions also
follow the same concept, they might not have to worry about the right or wrong interpretation of scriptures. The true message that was intended by the scripture would be
conveyed more better orally.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Mohammed Alshammari - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 5:35 PM
Hi Samer,
I like your word on how the interpretations of scriptures might be right or wrong, but I diagree that disseminating such information should be solely done by Elders or
ancestors, as this might turn into a grape vine in which the original message is lost. Instead we can suggest that both a written word and the elders should preach the
religion, which would convey the right message with the right evidence.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Halar Shahani - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 5:34 PM
Aboriginal (Indigenous) religions vary from region to region in the world. However, Aboriginal religions all have very similar characteristics that are based on living in harmony with
the natural order, dances, costumes, masks, ritual traditions, and sacred artifacts (material objects). These practices are part of a people's cultural identity and help them forge a
sense of connection with their world. Indigenous religions transmit wisdom, cultural values, and history, not through formal education but through myths, storytelling, drama, and
art. Compared to three main Abrahamic Religions of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, the main difference between these three religions and Aboriginal religions is that Indigenous
religions rarely have sacred texts that are used for guidance and belief. Other differences between Aboriginal religions are based on history, how the earth was created, evolution,
mans connection with land, our responsibly on this planet and the monotheistic nature of religions. However, there are striking similarities between indigenous religions and
Abrahamic religions in the sense of who we as people should be and our connection with our belief. All religions that we have so far studies this year have the same values on
how we should treat one and other. All religions we have so far studied and aboriginal religions have this belief that we are to treat others with the same respect that we ought to
be treated. Other similarities between aboriginal and other world religions include, coming of age ceremonies such as bar-mitzvahs in Judaism and Walkabouts in Australian
indigenous faith systems and also community building ceremonies such as Eid in Islam and Potluck dinners in aboriginal Canadian faiths. All religions are united by the common
feature of community growth substantially being more important than individualistic desires and I believe that growth of the community is of prime importance in improving other
religions as often Individualistic desires tend to obscure certain humans from seeing the beautiful and true nature of all religions.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Ahmed Altharman - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 5:39 PM
Aboriginal religions require faith in more than one God. These are deities. Aboriginal communities usually small and each community has its own belief and symbol which not only
represents the community's belief system but also the deity or deities that the community follows. Aboriginal religions emphasize the love for nature and like Buddhism, are more
on the spiritual side depicting an individual's own understanding of the world through their own critical thought and judgement.
Also, they require worshiping symbols and things as small as stones, rocks or leaves or even rivers that may, as believed by the aboriginal people, possess a soul specifically that
of the deities. These things may even be sacred to the communities because they may consider these to be created by the deities they follow.
Furthermore, like other religions, aboriginal communities also celebrate ceremonies and rituals like those of Christianity or Judaism. However, these do not have sacred books or
texts such as The Bible, Torah or The Quran.
They emphasize love for the surrounding world but also help to critically think which is what should be adopted by other religions in order to improve them. In this way, people will
not be following a single path and rigid rules but instead would be able to think on their own, develop their own understanding of the world and hence, be firm on their belief and
whatever decision they take and religion they opt for.
http://www.aboriginalculture.com.au/religion.shtml
(Religion and Ceremony, www.aboriginalcullture.com)
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Noora Ashrafi - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 9:35 PM
Hi Ahmed
I agree with your point when you say that they emphasize love for the world which I find something to be very important. It seems as though people forget that the world they
are living in won't be the same way forever with the way it is currently being treated. Also it seems necessary to form your own personality and be your own person instead of
following rules and becoming a copy of someone else.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Madisson Shearer - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 5:46 PM
In my initial thinking I saw no obvious similarities between Aboriginal religion and the other religions we have studied this semester. But upon deeper investigation I found many
similarities and further, I found many differences in and amongst the religions.
The first similarity I found was the act of reflecting inward to become closer with their holy spiritual being. In traditional Aboriginal culture young teens are sent out into the
forest with minimal food, water, clothing and shelter and are instructed not to come back until they feel they are closer with themselves and with and the world at its fullest sense.
The purpose of this activity is to make one's self pitiful before the spirit world and to seek help from a helper. Similarly in Buddhism, young monks are directed to sit and meditate,
with no basic necessities as a way to become closer with one's self and to help them on their path to reach Nirvana.
The second similarity I found was the respect shown for nature. In Aboriginal Culture nature plays a huge role in the religion.
They believe that animals are sacred and should
be treated as such. In Hinduism, they also believe animals are sacred and should be treated respectfully and even worshipped. In Hinduism, Cattle are especially treated with
care and compassion.
One difference I found between Aboriginal religion and Judaism is that Aboriginal culture is told through oral history, while Judaism is told through the use of the Torahs. While
both cultures have tradition and rituals they perform, the manner in which they tell their followers is exact opposite.
If Aboriginal culture adapted the practice of written history they may be able to retain more of it. Much of traditional Aboriginal culture is lost through translation and time because
it is only passed along orally. While religions such as Judaism have retained much of their history because everything was documented in the Torahs. It might benefit Aboriginal
culture to adapt and begin to write down their history.
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by Jessica Pouliot - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 5:51 PM
Similarities:
- All religions believe in spirits or some type of spiritual being
- There is the practice or prayer in some way, shape, or form. There are different ways of praying, but it is still similar that there is some type of prayer.
- Most religions have a shaman, or someone they look up to religiously
- All religions have ceremonies to celebrate either values or beliefs of their certairn religion
- All religions praise/worship some type of creator of god.
- Something is always sacred in every religion
- All religions have religious leaders
- Like all religions, Aboriginals have also suffered repression. No matter what the circumstances, everyone has something that they are dealing with
Differences;
-Aboriginals peoples have traditions, rather than religions. These traditions reflect their culture.
- Even though worship a god, it is said tha they believe in deities. rather than a single god.
How some practices may improve other religions:
Aboriginal people could improve other religions with their example of implementing their traditions rather than practicing a certain religion. Their traditions are religious, but they do
not specifically entitle themselves to having a religion (so, I believe).This shows the importance of their culture in many ways, and I think that this is an important thing for religions
to do because it could open more doors and make them more comfortable with each other knowing that they are also practicing culture. Yes, religion is important for some,
however, I think that Aboriginal "religions" make more sense than the other religions because other the cultural involvement. This may be little confusing, but I believe that there
should be more traditional ceremonies to celebrate in order to understand religions a little better. Having traditions mixed with religion could improve other religions by making
them more involved with their cultural side. Reading about Aboriginal traditions made more sense to me after reading about all of the other religions because everything was more
specific to culture. Religion is a part of a culture, therefore, honoring traditions would be fundamental to understanding all religions better.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Madisson Shearer - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 5:56 PM
In response to Jessica,
Interesting post. I had not thought that they do not have a religion as much as they have an set of traditions. It is my understanding that they do indeed have a god, they
know as the Creater. The Creater is responsible for the world they live in and as nature is a large part of their religion, they view the Creater with high regard. An example
would be when they engage in a traditional rain dance, the rain dance is a ritual/ ceremony to appease the Creater so that the Creater might make it rain. This is my
understanding, I could be wrong just as well.
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by Jessica Pouliot - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 9:44 PM
Hey Madisson,
Thanks for this , it made me think and I now agree with you. They do have a god, I was just referring to them having their own separate god. I, too, could also be
wrong.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Mohammed Jafar Alribh - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 6:05 PM
The Aboriginal religion can be seen similar and different from the other religions in the world that we have studied. The Aboriginal religions believe in many spirits which can be
seen as similar to Hinduism, where there are many Gods and Goddesses. The belief of spirits in objects can be pointed out as a similarity between Shinto and the Aboriginal
religion. Another similarity between Shinto and Aboriginal religions is Shamanism, where they interpret dreams and predict future. Both Daoism and Aboriginal religions are
concerned about the nature, but Daoism is about letting everything happen naturally, and Aboriginal religion is about giving to the nature and praising it in various ways.
Aboriginals thank the nature for giving them food and shelter.
Aboriginal tradition can be seen to stand out from other religions in a way that it emphasizes on taking care of nature, which other religions say indirectly, but for aboriginal
traditions, it is a main focus. When the Aboriginals gather to worship, they do not have seperate gatherings for men and women like in Islam, which shows how they see everyone
equal. Although they have morals and values like other religions, everything is not defined as a sin or a reward, which gives its followers to makes sense of the world themselves.
Unlike Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, Aboriginals see everyone equal in the world. There is no negation of homosexuality in aboriginal religions, where homosexuals have been
leaders in the past due to being two-spirited, which means they were believed to have traits of both gendres. It is evident from this that how minorities like gays can be seen as
superior in this religion. Other religions should learn from this and try to accept homosexuals as christians, muslims, or Jews by looking at the brighter side rather than just the
negative one.
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by Tiffany Klemack - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 6:11 PM
The differences between Aboriginal religions and other religions are that the Aboriginal people believe that all things have a soul, whereas other religions think only people do.
This type of animism the Aboriginals have make them feel connected to the earth, and in turn care for it as well. If every religion and everyone viewed the world this way, there
could possibly be less environmental damage, global warming and endangered species.
The tradition of using sweat lodges is a great idea for the purpose of detoxification, mentally and physically. This ritual would be useful for people who stray away from their "holy"
deeds, and expose themselves to harsh environmental stressors. In a way, other religions have this - communion, meditation, confession etc. But I like the idea of physically
sweating and the excretion of physical impurities as well.
Another beneficial tradition the Aboriginal people have that other religions don't have (Judaism kind of does but it is not as independent and insightful) is when young people are
placed "on the hill." Lakota calls it "to cry for a vision" and this is when people go out into the wilderness with no food and water, and little clothing an shelter. This is when a
person is so diminished that a spirit takes pity on them and the person has a vision. This spirit is that person's guardian for the rest of their lives. And because people, animals and
plants have souls, any spirit can help out the vision seeker. This is also something that I think is wonderful because believers will always have a sense of comfort and have
something to rely on when they are in times of distress and cannot access any supports.
There are many similarities between all religions. There is some sort of shaman, or spiritual leader, there are core values that demonstrate good citizenship and some form of
prayer. I think these aspects are extremely important, especially in today's day and age where depression, anxiety, mental illness and crime exists. People need a form of support
system, and might lack a solid social support. I feel that a spiritual leader and prayer benefits these people and offers them motivation, acceptance, love and comfort. Whereas the
similar values such as bravery, fortitude, generosity, and wisdom are displayed in one form or another in every religion. This is important to promote optimal behavior of people -
and promotes humility. If people held true to the good nature of the world's religions there would be little crime, and overall mentally and physically healthier people.
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by Daisy Martinez - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 6:13 PM
Aboriginal religions have a very harmonious way of life - similar to the Islamic traditions- they have a very peaceful outlook on humanity and the worlds. Aboriginal religions believe
everything is alive, from people, to the lakes, to the rocks, to the stars. This could help improve other religions really care and appreciate all that has been given to us and created
for us. Shinto, for example could add this as a guideline in their many ways of thinking and living.
Christian beliefs such as a deity like God are often incorporated with Aboriginal religions. Dances, however, set Aboriginal religions apart - with the exception of Chinese religions
that also value dances.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Jiawei Huo - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 6:19 PM
1. Aboriginal religions have god, deity, Same as Christianity. However, aboriginal believe three categories: Creation Beings, the circumstances are created by difference
colors; Ancestral Beings, the deities consider all ancestors are living with people age after age. In some case, ancestors live as part of nature, such as plants and animals;
Totemic Beings, it represents species of objects, specially represents the characteristic of these objects.
2. Ceremonies difference. Other religions such as religions service of Islam. Aboriginal religions called it ceremonies. The ceremonies are special, such as chanting, singing
and dancing.
3. Spirits difference. Christianity, the spirit expands the idea of god can give kindness toward everyone. Aboriginal religions require that people need to talk to the deity and
release themselves.
These beliefs can improve in many ways. For example, the ceremonies of Aboriginal religions may not be the greatest but it may be meaningful because of the style. These
ceremonies convey a message of deity of Aboriginal religions that people have the power of managing the nature.
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by Inderpreet Lohcham - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 6:53 PM
Similarities:
1. Performing rites and rituals: Like every religion, Aboriginal traditions practice their faith through the rites and rituals.
2. Inspirations from Nature: The inspirations can come from any part of nature: flora and fauna.
3. Value of Generosity: Being generous is one of the basic teachings of almost every religion for example: Zakat in Islam is one way of showing generosity.
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by Inderpreet Lohcham - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 7:00 PM
Differences:
1. There are no sacred texts.
2. Because of no particular Texts, the traditions does not rely on theory but they demand action and experience.
3. The basic way of keeping the traditions alive is through the teachings communicated from generation to generation.
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by Shanna Roy - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 7:44 PM
Some of the similarities that I found between religions were the symbols, when we think of many of the artifacts that the aboriginal people had from clothes to more tradition items
it is one way to identify them or connect them to something. It was said in the textbook that by digging up these artifacts they could tell who belonged to which group. This makes
me connect with Judaism and the Star of David, anything you see a star that resembles the Star of David one automatically thinks to Judaism, it is a way we can connect the two
together. Sweat lodges was a place that the aboriginal people went to pray and sweat out their sins, this reminded me of Buddhist temples. Islam is another religion that we just
recently did so I could connect the actions that they follow with the praying with the pipe to the actions that Muslims do while praying, and when aboriginal people are getting ready
for the Sundance they had to fast, meditate and assemble themselves to prepare for this, which reminded me of Ramadan and the reasons why Islam’s fast against hunger and
temptation for thirty days.
Some differences I found was the peace pipe and the pipe ceremonies, even though I could connect the actions to another religions the process of the pipe ceremonies takes on
no similarities to practices in other religions. The fact that aboriginal people follow Sacred Ecology and worship creatures and nature I found to be a big difference as many of the
other religions we have learned about worshiped a God or person.
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The values that the aboriginal people have I think are similar to other religions but the specificity of them I think could be embraced by other religions. Bravery. Fortitude, Curiosity
and Wisdom are the values of aboriginal religion and I think that worshipping these values could be brought into other religions instead of worshipping only values set by your god.
Another is worshipping the creatures and nature, so many people take these resources for granted and I think being able to worship the beauty and function of these things would
make a huge difference in our world.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Shelby McGillivray - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 7:45 PM
The Aboriginal religion, like other religions, is characterized by having a God, or Gods, who created people and the surrounding environment. Other religions we have studied only
believe in one God, whereas the Aboriginal religion believes in many different deities, who's image is actually recognizable. The Aboriginal religion is much more connected to the
Earth, nature, and land than most of the other religions we have studied. The Aboriginal religion has many practices and symbols for the Aboriginal people to follow, most of which
relate to nature and land; a lot of the practices are ceremonies, gatherings with many people. Also in the Aboriginal religion, the people are at peace with their own spirituality,
everyone has a right to believe how they choose too.
The Aboriginal religion is very caring towards to the Earth; nearly all of their rituals/practices involve some sort of nature. If other religions could be as kind to the Earth, and use
the Earth's gifts for good, like the Aboriginal religion, it could improve the Earth's environment. Another thing that would improve other religions is having ceremonies where the
people can get together and become closer as a group.
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by Syed Farrukh Mukhtar - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 7:50 PM
There are various beliefs in the Aboriginal religions and there is not one consensus or governing body to bring together a common belief, making it different that most religions.
One main difference is that unlike other religions, they do not have a holy or sacred text. What they know and believe has been passed down from generations by oral means,
such as stories from the elders. Another difference is that they believe all living things have spirits, even rocks. Many other religions focus more on the human actions and lives,
rather than on other living things.
Like most religions, Aboriginal religions have myths about creation and have a creator God. Most religions have stories about how they believe the earth came about. The
Aboriginal religions also have various ceremonies that they carry out such as the pipe ceremony and the sundance ceremony. This is like worship services for Christians or Puja
for Hindus. Many other religions have religious leaders to guide them, for the Aboriginal religious leaders would be Shamans. The Shamans, however, are believed to be able to
communicate with spirits and could interpret dreams and other experiences to the members of the community. They were also the healers in the community that had knowledge of
medicinal plants and rituals to cure the infirm.
One of the things we can learn about Aboriginal religions is the fact that they value the land and the interdependence/interconnectedness of the natural world. Although many
religions value mother earth, their main focus is the development of the individual, and they place less focus on the present world. For Aboriginals, however, they believe that it is
important to have a connection with the land as everything in nature is dependent on one another. Ecology is a very sacred topic for them. I believe other religions could focus a
lot more of their teaching on the importance of the earth, making humans more aware of their impact in the world. This way individuals could learn to respect animals and to not
exploit the earth, as we are doing presently.
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by Orrin Wick - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 8:47 PM
I found that there was some debate in the replies as to whether the aboriginals believed in gods or that there was a difference between gods and the aboriginal deities which were
considered more beings of nature and spiritual. My original post did not include any written portions of the aboriginal gods, rather focusing around calling them deities and
referencing the belief of deities similar to other religions beliefs in deities as well. In respect to some other religions, God is the supreme being of those religions. Other gods in
other religions can be spiritual or natural or both. So in my mind, the difference between religious gods and aboriginal’s deities are not that different at all. It seems to me just a
common misunderstanding when a person starts talking about God we refer to the only all-powerful being of a particular religion.
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by Ashley Landers - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 8:59 PM
Aboriginal religious traditions seem to have more in common with religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism and Shinto, where there is the belief in more than one god/goddess or the
belief in spirits, as opposed to Christianity, Judaism and Islam which are all very monotheistic, with the exclusion of saints and the like, which are prayed to in some
circumstances. The concept of the Shamen is quite similar to the concepts of pastors, priests, rabbis and imams in the Abrahamic traditions, all being seen as spiritual leaders and
guides within their respective faith traditions. The connection to the earth and the environment found within most Aboriginal religious traditions is quite unique, there are similar
concepts within Hinduism and Buddhism, but not to the same extent as in Aboriginal faith traditions.
In terms of how Aboriginal religious traditions and beliefs might improve the others we have studied over the course of the semester, I think that Judaism and Christianity could
benefit from some of these teachings. In the Judeo-Christian traditions there is the idea that we as human have domain over the earth, that it and everything on it was given to us
to rule over. In Aboriginal traditions there is the notion that the earth and all its creatures are sacred and should be treated as such. Not only are they sacred, but they contain
energy and all these energies are connected and have inherent value. There are also many religions such as Judaism and Buddhism where people are separated during certain
ceremonies or rituals on the basis of characteristics such as gender and many religions including there where women are viewed as less than or not able to access the same
spiritual knowledge as men. In Aboriginal traditions the genders are seen are complementary, one is needed to balance out the other and both are equal, no one is more
privileged than the other, something that the other religious traditions we have studied could learn from.
Source
Anderson, Leona, ed. Introduction to Religious Studies. 4th ed. Regina. U of Regina. 2010.
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by Jill Jacobson - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 9:30 PM
Aboriginal religions focus on the role of the natural world. They worship spirits and believe that spirits are in all creatures and nature in the universe. This is unlike Christianity,
which believes that only humans have souls and that the Holy Spirit is the one spirit who is with us to guide us. Judaism and Christianity also believe that humans have dominion
over the earth, whereas Aboriginal traditions treat even their prey with reverence, saying that it is giving itself to them. These traditions also involve interacting with spirits. This
differs from many in the Muslim faith (excepting Sufis) who don't believe in personal experiences with God. Like many other religions, Aboriginal traditions have ceremonies, and
they also pray. However, they don't have gods per say; they have the wakan tanka--a composition of all the powers in the universe, which can be either good or evil. Like
Confucianism, they venerate the spirits of the dead. Aboriginal values of generosity, bravery, fortitude, and wisdom would improve other religions, because these values would
bring everyone together as a community. The belief that the world is all interconnected might cause society to have more respect for each other and for nature.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Divyakshi Sharma - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 9:34 PM
Aboriginal religion, like many other religions, believes in a God who created people and its’s surroundings. They are very religious and spiritual, but rather than praying to God they
cannot see, each group generally believes in a number of different deities, whose image they see in different forms. This form may be that of a particular landscape feature, an
image in a rock art shelter, or in a plant or animal form. Praying to one God or more is same between Aboriginal religion and other religions such as Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism,
Islam etc. but none of this religions pray to landscape or plant form. Like in Judaism, Aboriginal religion too has a coming of age ceremonies for boys and girls. Even the
ceremonies are far apart from each other but their core meaning is the same. During the ceremony of a funeral, Aboriginal people paint themselves with white paint and cut
themselves to show remorse. Now this custom is very different that funeral customs for other religions, the closest it comes to is in Judaism, where when someone dies people rip
apart a piece of cloth which they are wearing to show remorse. Funeral ceremonies in other religion usually include either burial or burning the body. Aboriginal religion like many
other religions such as Hinduism believes in afterlife. Aboriginal people involve their environment and surrounding too in everything they do. As they worship their environment,
they take care of it and protect it. This is one of the things that other religions can learn from Aboriginal religion.
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by Saad Saleem - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 9:56 PM
Hi Divyakshi,
The way you explained all the different customs like coming of age and burial is very good. They do have a lot of similar customs like other major religion.
Hi Syed,
I agree with you about the point you made on the way aboriginal people respect land and environment around them, and I agree that other religion do respect the nature but
are easy on individuals to respect or protect the environment. If the religions should learn about protecting and conserving the nature.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Saad Saleem - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 9:39 PM
Aboriginal religion consists of diverse complex social and cultural customs and rituals to devote to sacred. There is not a definite Aboriginal Religion as they usually vary from
tribes to tribes or from region to region. Due to the diverse nature of their aboriginal peoples, the aboriginal religion is usually based on the characteristic of their surrounding
region. Comparing aboriginal religion with other major religions there are few similarities and difference between them.
Having a God or other supreme divinities is one of the similarities among these religions. They belief in a Creator who created the world and the their tribes. Similarly they belief in
the spirits of living beings, major religions like Christianity and Islam also belief in the spirits and soul of beings. The concept of life after death can be found in these religions too,
and how a human being is faced with the judgement for their actions. Celebrations of ritual and different customs are often observed in aboriginal religions like other religions. With
a lot of similarities aboriginal religions have some distinct characteristics too. their religion are usually based on the characteristic of their lands and surroundings. This makes them
protect the land and the surrounding as a devotion to the sacred. This is one of the difference from other religion.
The aboriginal religion could help transform other major religions like Christianity and Islam. If other religion adopt respecting the surrounding landscape or region the world would
be less polluted as people would take care and do their part.
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by Divyakshi Sharma - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 11:15 PM
Hello Saad,
I do agree with your point that Aboriginal Religion varies from tribe to tribe. Like many other religions Aboriginal Religion too believes in God as a creator and they worship
God in many different way depending from tribe to tribe as they cannot see God. There are many other similarities too between Aboriginal religion and Other religions as you
have explained. I liked you point about what other religions can learn from Aboriginal Religion.
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by Samantha Lautsch - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 9:56 PM
The first similarity that stuck out to me was that there doesn’t seem to be any one founder of Aboriginal traditions like Hinduism does not have any one founder. The vision seeking
in Aboriginal traditions is similar to the enlightenment experience in Buddhism and deprivation of food during this time is similar to what the Buddhist monks practice all the time.
One of the major differences that I have noted is that there is no holy book, and they the Aboriginal traditions rely on oral communication to pass down the teachings. Also, as our
text points out, one of the major differences between Aboriginal traditions and Judeo-Christian beliefs is that in Aboriginal traditions, animals are places higher than humans in the
hierarchy. Aboriginal traditions also believes in the interconnectedness of everything. I believe that this idea of interconnectedness would be valuable to be incorporated into, not
only the religions we learned about, but in every aspect of life. I think it’s important to understand how everything we, as humans do, does impact the environment in some way.
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by Yanxing Wang - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 10:24 PM
I think one of the areas in common with other religions we have studied is the sharing and adoption of religious and philosophical systems of ideas. We saw how Buddhism grew
out of Hinduism, carrying forward many ideas and practices (including meditation); we also see how the sharing of religious and philosophical ideas from Judaism to Christianity
and on to Islam. There are contrasts in the ways many ideas may be adopted and then changed. I think this reflects one of the core phenomenon amongst all religions, and that
is to adapt to the times, places and conditions of life. The Aboriginal traditions developed traditions of religious and philosophical ideas in relation to their broad geographic
locations, but also to the events, climate, material culture as well as in relation to both friendly and enemy neighbours. In my study of Indigenous Studies in the last semester
(Winter 2016) I think the most notable feature of Indigenous Peoples of North America is this: while they are often mistakenly presented as a monoculture, they are in fact quite
diverse; and the principle feature within all of their historical development is group capacity at adaptation. I think religious ideas and philosophies, and spiritual practices, all help
to achieve this adaptation.
Other traditions include Shaminism. Many of the other religious traditions have such a role as someone who guides followers, although they may not work in the same way to help
interpret spiritual symbols and spirits. The perception of the cosmos as being full of spirits and influences – may be similar to deities in Hindu tradition works in Aboriginal tradition
to combine both spiritual forces and day-to-day life.
The interconnectedness of life and the sacred ecology, and personal balance (such as in realms physical, mental, emotional
and spiritual spheres of life) is something all traditions can apply.
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by Maria Kary - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 10:54 PM
The Creator, like many other religions is an important part of the prayers.
The transmission of knowledge is different from other religions we have studied as they usually have books of stories and the religion but Aboriginal religions do not have texts.
Aboriginal religions pass down their knowledge through each other.
Names are given, other than their whiteman's name, at ceremonies that carry a special meaning for each individual.
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Re: Unit 10 (aboriginal religions)
by Muhammad Shareef - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 11:25 PM
Aboriginal religion is just like many other religions. At the heart of this religion, there is a powerful being that created people, plants, and animals. There are similarities and
differences between aboriginal religion and other religions such as Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Buddhism. Religion gives instruction on how people should live. For example, the
Hindus, and Buddhists visit temples to worship, and Christians go to church. In the same way, aboriginal, have sacred places in the land places where they go to worship. Many
religions observe special ceremonies each year, but different groups celebrate differently. Christians and Muslim use fasting to commemorate special events. In the same way,
aboriginals observe special events such as Corroboree, a ceremonial meeting with the Aboriginal people.
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by Muhammad Shareef - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 11:43 PM
Aboriginals perform death rituals, something akin to religions such as Muslims, Shinto, and Hinduism. Through mortuary ritual, aboriginals attempt to galvanize cohesive transition
of the dead from the present world to the dreaming.
Aboriginal elders play an integral role in the region. They are observed as people who have the most profound propinquity to spiritual matters, and their predisposition of
discernment is epithet to them. This is similar to other religions where elders provide directions to their members regarding prudent behavior and morals.
The Aboriginals’ values and beliefs are based on an integration of spiritual world and physical world with a great emphasis on community relationship. From Aboriginal, other
religions can borrow parenting roles, which is given great importance in Aboriginal religion. Besides, Aboriginals have a deep spiritual connection with the land. They firmly believe
that the land gives them protection and provide them economic and social needs. If the human relationship with the land can be adopted in other religions, it might be beneficial in
averting environmental crisis.
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by Tiffany Klemack - Wednesday, 22 June 2016, 11:54 PM
Just form reading other people's responses, I also wanted to add in that the transition of knowledge is very different than other religions. There is the bible, the Quaran, the Torah
etc. yet, the aboriginal religion does not have an official holy text. I think this is so unique to the culture, as storytelling is something that is sacred to the Aboriginals. Also, visions
are ways of storytelling and passing along holy messages that can help direct believers. It is awesome how this form of scripture is constantly alive and moving as it passes from
one person to another.
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