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Lecture
Fatal Flaws of Moral Relativism
There is no objective moral truth
, since there are altering theories between every different culture
o
Moral absolutists: the complete opposite, saying that there are absolute truths
Fatal Flaws of Moral Relativism
1.
If moral relativism is true, then no one can ever be accused of doing anything wrong
o
Fault: you can still think something is wrong, even though there is no clear moral wrongness
2.
In relativism, you have no basis to complain about the problem of evil
o
An often religious argument, often blaming moral relativism is our downfall, and often taught in schools
Ex. Jordan Peterson has case against moral relativism 3.
Moral improvement implies an outside standard that you're getting closer
o
You can still have goals outside of a religion or cultural ideal, just non-scientific to justify
Some truths are not indicative of the entire argument, and is offered differed to emotionally, or with our religious upbringing o
Kahn previously thought that ethics coincided with science, mimicking physics with absolute moral truths, but it is impossible to prove theoretically in the same way at this time
Law does not equal ethics, legally is cultural relativism
2.1 Module 2 Introduction
Comparing, contrasting and evaluating two ethical viewpoints: ethical relativism ad divine command theory
Overview of consequentialism, deontology, virtue ethics, and feminist ethical theory
2.2 Module 2 Opening Activity Ethical Principles of Global Cultures
Ethical principles
in some cultures might not hold in other cultures, i.e. different work environments
Example cases, do you agree or disagree?
o
Baffin Island: Inuit Cases: a previously respected tradition of leaving the elderly to survive among Earth's elements to die, known as senicide, as they can no longer provide the tribe resources
o
Traditional Seal Clubbing: clubbing baby seals to death with wooden clubs
2.3 Introduction to Moral Reasoning
Regan discusses several ways to not answer moral questions o
i.e. the difference between conflicting expressions of personal preference vs. moral judgment, for what is right and wrong
A problem with policy and ethics debates and political theory is that they are contentious Moral Judgments and Personal Preferences
Personal preference cannot solve ethical/policy problems, as personal preferences do not create conflict
How Should We Answer These Questions?
Another difference between personal preference and ethical claims is request for reasons -- it is appropriate to ask for reasons or arguments in ethical claims
Moral Judgments and Feelings falls prey to the same issues as personal preference
Thinking It Is So Does Not Make It So thinking something does not justify that claim
The Irrelevance of Statistics means that there is no strength of numbers in ethics, good arguments
are needed instead
The Appeal to a Moral Authority
o
It is difficult to justify the belief in a God
o
It is difficult what is willed, commanded, or forbidden if it is unclear which prophets are false, and if a religious text could be trusted
o
It leads to the question if something is right because a God commanded it, or if God commanded it because it is right
Ideal Moral Judgment
Conceptual Clarity: fully understanding the debated concept, for example, if abortion is a subset of euthanasia since it is unclear if the fetus is considered a person
Empirical Information: there are assumptions made about what is more likely, but actual facts can
bring about more information on the questions
Rationality: recognizing the difference and connection between different ideas
o
Uses logic to understand if some statements are true, other statements must be false
Impartiality: not favoring something or someone above others, i.e. favoring one's own children versus another's
o
Free from bigotry, prejudice, and favoritism
Reflective Endorsement: unclouded by emotion, uncharged circumstances
Correct Moral Principles: guide those who have varying alternative ideas, not just following the other concepts
o
Further on this when we discuss consequentialism and deontology
Conclusion
Next: ethical theories, ethical claims, and policy positions
Reading: Introduction to Moral Reasoning (Regan)
Some Ways Not to Answer Moral Questions
Moral Judgments and Person Preferences
Moral disagreements
are not the same as personal preference disagreements
, as personal preference does not disagree with another person's thoughts
o
Personal: It's possible for both to be true at the same time
Argumentative support is not needed, as no judgment has been made
o
Moral: if one is true, the other is false
Support is requested, as a judgement has been made (1)
o
An example: personally disliking the idea of abortion versus stating that abortion is wrong (2)
o
Some philosophers deny a difference (1)
Moral Judgments and Feelings
While stating that abortion is wrong implies a feeling of negativity toward the concept, it does not require backing of factual support, similar to person preferences (2)
Why Thinking it is Does Not Make It So
While someone may think that something is wrong, for example, both individuals think that they are correct, yet their thoughts deny the other person's thoughts (2)
The Irrelevance of Statistics
Some would say a majority thought would settle the matter (multiple voices rather than individual voices), but it only again shows how people think or feel about the question, not stating a truth
o
i.e. most people once believed that the Earth was flat, but that did not change the shape of the Earth (3)
The Appeal of Moral Authority
If someone had a greater voice and could decide what is right or wrong, moral authority
is often labeled as a god
o
The concept of gods themselves is controversial, especially as the same texts could be interpreted differently without a direct consultant
Even if one were to exist, it is impossible to check the truth of this matter (4)
The Ideal Moral Judgement
Ideal Moral Judgement: approaches of which requirements would need to be met to create the ideal, as free from fault and error as possible, using (at least) the six ideas below:
o
As it is an ideal, it is impossible
to complete all requirements to reach this, but it is not irrational to reach towards (4) 2.4 Relativism
Summary of "Who's to Judge?" (Pojman)
(Modest) Objectivism: holds objective validity of moral principles while considering many aspects of relativism, seen in Pojman's article
Pojman argues that cultural relativism (fact that there's a cultural difference between moral principles) does not include ethical relativism (theory that there's no objectively valid universal moral principle)
Pojman states that Dependency Thesis is mistaken (theory that morality derives legitimacy form individual cultural acceptance)
o
Instead, posits that there's universal moral principle based on a common human nature by solving conflicts of interest
Concludes: people are best able to judge between right and wrong via sympathy/understanding
Ethical and Cultural Relativism Video
Covers ethical relativism and divine command theory (aka religious-based ethical theory
)
Cultural Relativism:
on human traditions and practices, claiming that different societies have different mores/behaviors/principles
Ethical Relativism:
moral relativism is chosen by certain groups, societies, or cultures
o
Moves further than cultural relativism, adding that each societies' behaviors are equally correct
i.e.
Diplomatic immunity laws:
one country would not want their diplomats to be morally/legally responsible of a foreign country
i.e. Nuremberg Trials: with the idea of cultural relativism, this argument failed as crimes against humanity held as a crime across many to all societies
There are no moral standards that hold across all societies
The Argument for Ethical Relativism
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An example of a common argument for Ethical Relativism:
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P1. Diversity Thesis: Moral rightness and wrongness of actions vary from society to society, so there are no universal moral standards held by all societies
(Cultural Relativism).
o
P2. Dependency Thesis: Whether or not it is right for individuals to act in a certain way depends on (or is relative to) the society to which they belong.
o
C1. Therefore, there are no absolute or objective moral standards that apply to all people everywhere.
Argues that different societies have different moral codes, meaning different standards of right and wrong, as well as stating that each moral principle is just as correct as any other
Subjectivism, Relativism, and Tolerance
If you relativize ethics down to individuals, it becomes useless since criticism/judgment of others is
near impossible
o
i.e. if a murderer was following their own idea of correct moral principle, then they would be correct
o
This idea of ethical relativism is typically rejected, but the same issues follow other forms of it
The Putative (Assumed) Connection Between Ethical Relativism and Tolerance
Why is naïve ethical relativism popular? A perceived connection between relativism and tolerance
Subjectivism (making ethics relative to individuals) or groups/societies would justify intolerance if adopted as a principle, and therefore cannot justify moral tolerance that holds for everyone
It cannot provide a case for intolerance because a society without an aversion to intolerance towards others could not claim that anything is wrong with intolerance
Patrick Devlin vs. John Stuart Mill
Patrick Devlin (ethical relativist) argued that England's norms banned prostitution/homosexuality as unnatural, and that these people should be imprisoned/drugged to curb behavior
o
For intolerance
John Stuart Mill (non-relativist/objectivist) argued that liberty/moral toleration were objective moral principles which held across time, culture, and places
o
For tolerance
Moral Evaluation of an Action
There is a difference between
1.
Moral evaluation of an action and interference with that action
An action can be morally wrong, while it's also wrong to interfere with that action
It might be wrong to publicly condemn an action that's wrong to do
2.
Moral evaluation of an action and the agent who performs it
Good people can do bad things due to false beliefs, not understanding consequences
of actions, or lack abstraction to reflect on their current practices
They could be incorrect to judge as morally deficient even if their actions are morally wrong
John Stuart Mills could say that one should be tolerant of other cultures/places because it might be wrong to interfere with their actions/policies
1.
We should also be wary of blaming/praising individuals from other cultures Video: Problems with Ethical Relativism and Cultural Relativism Problems for the Diversity Thesis
Ethical Relativism includes Cultural Relativism - different cultures have variety across their moral codes or principles
o
Issue: there are many largely shared beliefs (but they could differ in implementation)
Difference of implementation: Alaskan citizens honor parents by letting them die of exposure, while Canada may honor parents by giving them to an old folks home
Problems with Dependency Thesis
Different groups have different beliefs about the same subject, but we would never conclude they're equally correct
o
Ethics
is somehow the only science where we state that there could be lots of equally correct different views
o
Request for an argument objection: questions the justifications of a belief system--the lack of a good argument destroys this argument
i.e. being raised on a religion is not a good enough reason to justify that belief
Simply saying that a group picked those morals, "it's tradition", or that they've always lived that way does not justify a group's cultural practices
Ethical Relativism leads to absurd conclusions i.e. Nazis would be justified as an entire cultural belief Martha Nussbaum
Against ethical relativism: it's a justification and protection of sexism and oppression
Problems with Ethical and Cultural Relativism
Ethical Relativism cannot explain "moral progress," i.e. hundreds of years ago, we had more racism/oppression which ethical relativism would say was equally moral
It is unclear how groups are defined, i.e. what is the scope? Are we looking at subgroups within those?
2.6 Religious Moralism and Divine Command Theory
Two parts: o
Equivalency thesis: all moral claims are with equivalent with what God wills, claims or commands
Things are only good if God approves, or wrong if God disapproves
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Dependency Thesis: things are right according to certain cultures, morality is dependent on God