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Week 4 Discussion Post 1
Due 2/1
Good afternoon
,
1. Engage with the text
:
I chose the following quote:
“Every
virtue
or
excellence
both
brings
into
good
condition
the
thing
of
which
it
is
the
excellence
and
makes
the
work
of
that
thing
be
done
well
.
.
.
Therefore,
if
this
is
true
in
every
case,
the
virtue
of
man
also
will
be
the
state
of
character
which
makes
a
man
good
and
which
makes
him
do
his
own
work
well.
(1106a)” Virtue is focused on the person’s habitual choices in their living, interacting with people, and when making on-the-spot choices for certain situations. If a person is living virtuously, they are considered to be living well. Some of the virtue characteristics described in section 5.4 of the text are Honesty, love, friendliness, courage, and more, which are needed as just a member of the community. You want
to be known for living well. 2. Reflect on yourself:
Identify an area of
your
life in which virtues are needed to do well. Explain what the “telos” of that role or activity is, what virtues are needed and why they are needed, and what would be lost if someone tried to be successful in that activity who didn’t exercise the virtues. This might be a role you have, a vocation or career, a hobby, or something common to all of us.
I believe virtues are needed to do well in every area of my life. But I will focus on the telos as a mother.
Compassion-
As a mother, I need continuous compassion; I need to recognize when my child is going through something, be sympathetic to the issue, and be willing to help when needed.
LOVE-
Show love in the way of living, not just what I can do or tangibly supply my son.
Forgiveness abilities:
Be able to give forgiveness and show my child how to forgive himself if he missteps as well as others.
Perseverance:
Be patient to show my son not everything happens overnight, but also be patient with him as he continues to grow into the man God has willed for him.
Teaching ability: I need to be able to teach my son, through continued practice, how to live virtuously. Virtuous living requires practice.
Learner
: I must continue learning and adopting changes to support my son.
As a mother, if I tried to live without any of these virtues I listed above and more, it could result in me not living a good human life as a mother. I would not have lived a truly flourishing life as
a mother. My goal as a mother(telos) is to perform well in the activities listed above to raise and help my son build the virtues that will carry him through life. I am to be that good role model, which, as a parent, I should be. 3. Reflect on virtue
:
Looking at what is happening today, I see humans have too little/no respect for harm and danger.
In today’s world, you see people nearly running into danger, putting themselves in dangerous situations to provide social media footage, jumping out of their cars on the freeway to express frustrations, and not demonstrating virtuous characteristics of courageousness but recklessness to
the extreme. 4. Compare/Contrast with other theories:
Aristotle's theory is that it is not what you do but who you are based on your habitual choices that determine your living well.
Mills believes that your ethics are based on the choices/actions you make/take that are right or wrong.
Deontology focuses on what duties or rights I must respect or have. There is not one theory that would best fit various ethical dilemmas. But as a foundation, I would
start with understanding Kant’s Deontology theories, which focus on self-action, considering act/do and treating others only as you would see as the action becoming universal. With this duty,
see one also building characteristics of virtues. I see the theories all working in a complementary capacity in the world. References: Aristotle. (1931). Nicomachean ethics. (W. D. Ross, Trans.). Retrieved from http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/nicomachaen.htmlLinks to an external site.
Thames, B. (2018). How should one live? Introduction to ethics and moral reasoning (3rd ed.). San Diego, CA: Bridgepoint Education
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Reply to discussion 1 Hello Omar,
You did an outstanding job on your post. I want to address the question you posed to us. I can say not having the right balance (the Golden Mean) in any of the virtues listed could impact one negatively. I will take empathy, for example, I have seen prominent individuals show too much empathy to inmates in prison, leading them to take on actions that are wrong, such as bringing inmates items; too much empathy impacted their judgment, costing them their careers altogether.
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Reply to discussion 1
Hello Professor Wise,
Our current world could use a rebalancing in the leadership of our nation. Liberal and Conservatives do not see to practice the Golden Mean when it comes to running our country. I see one extreme over the other taking place. This moves the world not to have confidence or any sense of direction when standing for what is right or wrong. A perfect example is what occurred on January 07, 2021, at our U.S. Capitol. I never thought Americans would take this action against our own capital. Discussion 2 submitted on 2/1
Good evening,
This was a fascinating video. I found myself engrossed in the conversation. I listened to the video about three times in the first few minutes; it's interesting how Haidt explains what I see our society as today: people who thrive in social groups and do things that advance their group at the expense
of others. Human nature is known to thrive better when working together; now I can understand why, based on how Jordan explained, the cortex of the neurons is built and structured in our mind, which makes people wired to work together. It is interesting to hear that everything is socially constructed,
meaning that our social connections create our output. Is that the right way to interpret what Haidt was saying?
Knowing and understanding where people stand on the right or left side and where they stand with sanctity or purity is good. I am learning it can help you interact with those individuals as well as help you move more smoothly in each other’s presence. It is our responsibility as the people to judge carefully, as Haidt stated, to ensure we are protecting our social groups.
This course provides some of the tools captured in the video, allowing us to pause and ask if it’s right or wrong, duty or not, moral or immoral.
It was interesting to see the light bulb go on for Haidt during his visit to India and say that he was not on either side; he was trying to figure out what was
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happening. This is where I see virtue theory come into play for him; it was now about how one lives over what one does and how other cultures prepare
their bodies for living the characteristics of a virtuous person.
That was a great ending to where I stopped, as I feel the same way. When I started, I thought I was more on the conservative side. I see that I am more in the middle than ever. We must be balanced and focused on the situation to determine which theory we will apply during any given situation.
Thank you,
Simonee
In response to your friend’s statement, you could consider something like this:
Thank you, Professor Wise for sharing your response! Yes, you are correct, I know Haidt acknowledges the role of social construction in shaping our views and beliefs, but he also recognizes the importance of empirical evidence and objective reality. I agree that all the different approaches with both Haidt and Peterson contribute to our understanding.
To think about how different thinkers approach social constructivism. Jonathan Haidt,
known for his work on moral psychology, might indeed emphasize the role of social constructs in shaping our I beliefs and behaviors. On the other hand, Jordan Peterson tends to take a more cautious stance, emphasizing both biological and cultural factors.
It’s a nuanced discussion, and I appreciate your insights!” 🤔🤔
Feel free to adapt this response to your own style and context! 😊